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In reply to the discussion: Why can't more people figure this out? [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)61. No it didn't mention gun bans but I distinctly remember the push for the assault weapons ban ...
earlier this year. That overreach totally poisoned the water for the changes I hoped to see in our gun control laws.
I'm sure that many, if not most, of the gun control groups would love to see another assault weapons ban and hope that it would be far stronger than the previous useless one.
The gun control movement is still trying its best to get assault weapons bans at the state levels. For example:
Assault weapons ban fails despite R.I. leaders support
By David Klepper | ASSOCIATED PRESS JULY 08, 2013
PROVIDENCE After the deadly school massacre in Newtown, Conn., top Rhode Island leaders gathered to recommend ways to crack down on gun violence. Topping the list were proposals to ban semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
The idea came from Governor Lincoln Chafee, House Speaker Gordon Fox, Senate President Teresa Paiva Weed, and Attorney General Peter Kilmartin and had the backing of the mayors of Providence, Pawtucket, and Central Falls.
Yet the gun control legislation was left to languish when lawmakers adjourned their 2013 session Wednesday. Other proposals to change the way handgun permits are awarded or to require gun owners to pay a $100-per-gun registration fee also failed after huge protest rallies at the State House.
Instead, lawmakers passed legislation that would increase jail time for carrying a stolen firearm while committing a violent crime. They also voted to make it illegal to possess a gun with a destroyed serial number.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/07/07/assault-weapons-ban-fizzles-general-assembly/cJjjwpgwLgt0J3EmAK6h9I/story.html
Waukegan Rejects Assault Weapons Ban
July 16, 2013 6:47 AM
WAUKEGAN, Ill. (STMW) Waukegan declined to follow the lead of Highland Park and North Chicago on Monday, July 15, when the City Council voted unanimously against a proposed ban on assault weapons within its municipal limits.
Facing a state-mandated deadline for communities to adopt firearm regulations prior to the implementation of Illinois new concealed-carry law, the council voted to follow overall state statute on firearms and not enact any extra measures.
Second Ward Ald. Thomas Koncan, chairing a Public Safety Committee that unanimously recommended against an assault-weapons ban, said he looked at the issue as whether were going to follow state law or whether we are going to have our own little kingdom and have our own laws regarding guns.
I believe (a ban) would set up the city of Waukegan for lawsuits and would do nothing to deter crime, Koncan added, saying that adding an assault-weapons ban in Waukegan would just create a patchwork around the state with different laws in different communities.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/waukegan-rejects-assault-weapons-ban/
The gun control side of the debate has to realize that if we wish to see some real progress on this important issue we need to ban the use of the word "ban." It might be possible to pass gun bans at the state level but everyone that passes only reinforces the NRA position that banning and confiscation is the ultimate goal of the gun control groups. That will probably mean that many good Democrats could lose their seat in Congress at the midterms and be replaced by Republicans or even worse, Tea Baggers.
We may be largely in agreement but the problem is that many on the strong gun control side of the debate are still hoping to ban and confiscate firearms. This is counterproductive and has caused the sale of all firearms and ammunition to absolutely skyrocket in recent months. I may support gun rights but I really don't advocate that everybody in this nation should run out and buy a gun. Guns are not for everybody.
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I agree and the attempt to pass the assault weapons ban caused the sale of firearms and ...
spin
Jul 2013
#70
Except if you lose your cognitive abilities, you won't be able to make a good decision, will you?
mbperrin
Jul 2013
#65
So I take it you believe people should be punished for the crimes of others?
NutmegYankee
Jul 2013
#18
Who cares if a car is not household property? You are the only one calling it that.
A Simple Game
Jul 2013
#90
Again, I can't read your mind. Is there such a thing as writing comprehension?
A Simple Game
Jul 2013
#106
Gun accident rates have fallen as well, check the WISQARS CDC link above. (both fatal and non-fatal)
X_Digger
Jul 2013
#50
But it proves the point-the more guns, the more gun deaths. Proliferation is the problem. nt
ErikJ
Jul 2013
#81
I also consider the courage factor. Guns give a coward courage, a knife not as much. n/t
A Simple Game
Jul 2013
#79
guns have one real purpose, to kill people. all other uses are just marking time until that happens
msongs
Jul 2013
#7
Actually one of the first on-target meme ads about this issue I have ever seen.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#14
No it didn't mention gun bans but I distinctly remember the push for the assault weapons ban ...
spin
Jul 2013
#61
perhaps because of the legislative push to hold gun makers accountable for crimes such as Sandy Hook
Boom Sound 416
Jul 2013
#20
Bottom Line: Guns are exclusively killing machines. The more guns the more that must die.
ErikJ
Jul 2013
#30
Given how many guns already exist in America, do think banning guns would take them out of
Omnith
Jul 2013
#53
People kill people...true! Guns just make it a hellofalot easier and deadlier. nt
NorthCarolina
Jul 2013
#102