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NutmegYankee

(16,177 posts)
26. Once again - statistics.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jul 2013

While your personal experience is tragic, that doesn't mean everyone will experience that set of events.

Why can't more people figure this out? [View all] Playinghardball Jul 2013 OP
K&R. Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #1
To the greatest! Just Saying Jul 2013 #2
It's PEOPLE with using GUNS that kill PEOPLE. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #39
Junkie guns! This is why the war on drugs must not end. cui bono Jul 2013 #112
K&R.... daleanime Jul 2013 #3
Perhaps because so many of the anti-gun crowd has tried to ban them aikoaiko Jul 2013 #4
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #87
Who? BainsBane Jul 2013 #104
Bullshit BainsBane Jul 2013 #103
I'll raise your bullshit with the AWB - Assault Weapons BAN aikoaiko Jul 2013 #105
That wasn't a ban on all guns BainsBane Jul 2013 #109
No one said it was a ban on all guns. aikoaiko Jul 2013 #111
You said "ban them". You did not qualify it to be only assault weapons. cui bono Jul 2013 #113
You could be a little more honest about your goals aikoaiko Jul 2013 #118
And you couldn't be more transparent if you tried. Paladin Jul 2013 #127
And what are you seeing? aikoaiko Jul 2013 #129
I don't think you know my goals. I'm not even talking about the issue, cui bono Jul 2013 #131
Transparent, said the glass. I can see right through you. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #124
Welcome to DU. aikoaiko Jul 2013 #126
Except it's not PEOPLE, you're trying to ban is it? MicaelS Jul 2013 #5
But accidents do happen too. ErikJ Jul 2013 #6
And I refuse to be punished for others' accidents. MicaelS Jul 2013 #9
The reality is youre more likely to punish yourself by having a gun. ErikJ Jul 2013 #11
And that is my choice to make for myself. MicaelS Jul 2013 #13
THe main problem is gun proliferation. ErikJ Jul 2013 #15
I agree and the attempt to pass the assault weapons ban caused the sale of firearms and ... spin Jul 2013 #70
Except if you lose your cognitive abilities, you won't be able to make a good decision, will you? mbperrin Jul 2013 #65
Just hope that you will never suffer from Dementia PADemD Jul 2013 #122
The problem is the stats mislead those not used to statistics. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #16
From Personal experience I beg to differ ErikJ Jul 2013 #21
Once again - statistics. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #26
Let me tell you my experience with guns. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #99
That is, of course, Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #12
So I take it you believe people should be punished for the crimes of others? NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #18
Punish is a relative term Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #23
And you didn't answer the question. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #24
I think I did Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #28
Denial of civil rights is always a punishment. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #32
You certainly have a point Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #47
Go after it's true root causes. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #51
All that is certainly worth a try Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #56
You choose to compare only one use. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #60
I take it you have invented a time machine? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #100
LOL Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #115
Thats silly quakerboy Jul 2013 #38
+1 Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #49
Some of your examples are incorrect NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #66
Why are his examples incorrect? A Simple Game Jul 2013 #75
*yawn* NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #80
If you find the discussion too boring get of the thread. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #88
One gets tired by the same goofiness being trotted out. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #89
Who cares if a car is not household property? You are the only one calling it that. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #90
Household property is special subsection in law on personal property. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #91
Well at least you found out that it is all considered personal property. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #94
You hunted deer with a .22? NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #96
I'm sorry I can't read your mind. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #98
You realize I'm discussing current events yes? NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #101
Again, I can't read your mind. Is there such a thing as writing comprehension? A Simple Game Jul 2013 #106
Nope, no need to dig holes NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #108
Oh, I see, you already have a hole. You just jump into it on occasion. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #130
Actually, no. quakerboy Jul 2013 #92
Very well said. I'm going to use this in my government classes this year. mbperrin Jul 2013 #67
That's a lovely story. Unfortunately, there's this pesky "reality" thing. jeff47 Jul 2013 #17
Bottom Line: all things being equal, the more guns, the more deaths. ErikJ Jul 2013 #29
Except.. that's not actually true. X_Digger Jul 2013 #33
All things being equal I said. ErikJ Jul 2013 #34
"all things being equal" means what, disregarding the actual facts? X_Digger Jul 2013 #35
Obama's election drove gun sales to record levels. ErikJ Jul 2013 #36
Check the NICS link above.. By 2007, there were 97,000,000 more guns X_Digger Jul 2013 #37
Patience my friend -patience ErikJ Jul 2013 #40
Except.. that isn't true, either, hehe. X_Digger Jul 2013 #43
And how much has the prison population increased? ErikJ Jul 2013 #45
Gun accident rates have fallen as well, check the WISQARS CDC link above. (both fatal and non-fatal) X_Digger Jul 2013 #50
Again, the death rate will lag the buying rate by stockpilers. ErikJ Jul 2013 #52
Except it's been falling steadily, regardless of increasing sales. X_Digger Jul 2013 #54
Gun deaths climbs during Republican presidencies, declines during Dems. ErikJ Jul 2013 #62
*cough* X_Digger Jul 2013 #69
Less people buying guns now. But more guns sold. ErikJ Jul 2013 #71
We've been hearing the 'any day now' schtick for a long time. X_Digger Jul 2013 #72
Japan vs USA then ErikJ Jul 2013 #73
Toothpaste in tube vs toothpaste out of tube X_Digger Jul 2013 #74
Japan also has no tradition of regular people owning firearms. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #78
But it proves the point-the more guns, the more gun deaths. Proliferation is the problem. nt ErikJ Jul 2013 #81
Imagine if the government had a camera in every room of your home NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #82
Hyperbole. I have been thinking of getting a gun myself. ErikJ Jul 2013 #84
It is your right as a citizen. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #85
You are assuming that the General Social Survey (GSS) report... spin Jul 2013 #128
All things equal... Haha! xoom Jul 2013 #120
I also consider the courage factor. Guns give a coward courage, a knife not as much. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2013 #79
And yet a gun is a far more deadly weapon that allows all those bad people mbperrin Jul 2013 #63
You win! Zoeisright Jul 2013 #68
The desperation by the gun crowd never ceases to amaze me. Rex Jul 2013 #77
Way to completely miss the point on purpose. Rex Jul 2013 #76
2 Things Martin Eden Jul 2013 #93
No one is banning anything BainsBane Jul 2013 #107
Who is trying to ban all guns? n/t cui bono Jul 2013 #114
So in a game of rock, paper, scissors cvoogt Jul 2013 #123
guns have one real purpose, to kill people. all other uses are just marking time until that happens msongs Jul 2013 #7
But, the more the guns, the more the deaths ErikJ Jul 2013 #8
People also want to ban guns with certain shapes Recursion Jul 2013 #10
Actually one of the first on-target meme ads about this issue I have ever seen. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #14
Well then stop talking about banning guns. ... spin Jul 2013 #19
the OP didn't mention banning guns. boston bean Jul 2013 #42
No it didn't mention gun bans but I distinctly remember the push for the assault weapons ban ... spin Jul 2013 #61
perhaps because of the legislative push to hold gun makers accountable for crimes such as Sandy Hook Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #20
I'd recommend this a thousand times libodem Jul 2013 #22
Heheheh. Iggo Jul 2013 #25
slap! heaven05 Jul 2013 #27
Bottom Line: Guns are exclusively killing machines. The more guns the more that must die. ErikJ Jul 2013 #30
Perhaps because it is silly and wrong? cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #31
Technically bullets kill people Omnith Jul 2013 #41
And round and round she goes. ErikJ Jul 2013 #44
Given how many guns already exist in America, do think banning guns would take them out of Omnith Jul 2013 #53
Yes, most criminals end up in jail/prison ErikJ Jul 2013 #57
I appreciate the reply. Omnith Jul 2013 #59
Wow, didnt realize your few posts. ErikJ Jul 2013 #64
More gun nuts to protect us from the gun nuts Major Nikon Jul 2013 #46
I like this message-thanks... midnight Jul 2013 #48
K&R B Calm Jul 2013 #55
I do not agree. PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #58
Because they haven't experienced a state of waking consciousness in years? freshwest Jul 2013 #83
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #86
That takes critical thinking... malokvale77 Jul 2013 #95
The last part sums it up perfectly. blackspade Jul 2013 #97
People kill people...true! Guns just make it a hellofalot easier and deadlier. nt NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #102
True. Like cars make it easier than walking. nt ErikJ Jul 2013 #110
Mahalo Play! Cha Jul 2013 #116
nice! napkinz Jul 2013 #117
It was the media.... GTurck Jul 2013 #119
And it's the NRA and pro-gun militants...... Paladin Jul 2013 #121
Is this a post designed to get all the gun fans on board? WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #125
here's another ... napkinz Jul 2013 #132
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