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In reply to the discussion: 2016 POLL: Rand Paul, darling of wingnuts across the political spectrum, now leads the pack. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)39. At the rate things are going, Rand doesn't need your stinkin' votes! Banana republicans forvever!
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You can overthrow government and auction everything off to the Koch brothers by several ways.
First, by denying others a voice in voting by oppressive regulations and misinformation.
Second, by impoverishing people through defunding government's ability to stand between predatory capitalists and their prey.
Third. by non-stop propaganda against that government to make people give in to the fascism they promote by default, allowing the church and business interests to run wild in the public and private lives of people.
Fourth, is just shooting people or intimidation, doing that banana republican routine so obvious in the videos. These displays of armed force across the nation are designed to shut people up and let these who presume to act as our 'betters' or as they call themselves, 'patriots' who would run our lives into the ground.
Those of us in the 'Look! The Emperor Has No Clothes' brigade would call them 'bullies' and not patriots.
Please note the familiarity of the speakers with the entire Infowars universe, a Bircher production. They have learned the lessons the Koch brothers paid for, very well.
Rand Paul is the elected version of Adam Kokesh and the rest of the gang who want to bring the Old South back. And at this point, we must ask supporters, just like those of Ron Paul:
...See, believe it or not, judgment matters. If a man believes there is a straight line of unbroken tyranny betwixt the torture and indefinite detention of suspected terrorists on the one hand, and anti-discrimination laws that seek to extend to all persons equal opportunity, on the other, that man is a lunatic. Worse than a lunatic, that man is a person of such extraordinarily obtuse philosophical and moral discernment as to call into real question whether he should even be allowed to go through life absent the protective and custodial assistance of a straightjacket, let alone hold office. That one might believe in unicorns would still allow one to profess a level of sagacity and synaptic activity in ones brain several measures beyond that of the man who thinks liberty is equally imperiled by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission as by the CIA.
That any liberal, progressive or leftist could waste so much as a kind word about someone as this is mind-boggling. There are not many litmus tests for being a progressive in good standing in this country, but one would think, if there were, that surely to God, civil rights would be one of them. It is one thing to disagree about the proper level of taxation, either on the wealthy or corporations: honest people can disagree about that, and for reasons that would still permit one to claim the mantle of liberalism or progressivism; so too with defense spending, drug policy, trade, education reform, energy policy, and any number of other things. But the notion that one can be a progressive, even merely liberal, while praising someone who believes that companies should be allowed to post No Blacks Need Apply signs if they wish, and that only the market should determine whether that kind of bigotry will stand, is so stupefying that it should render even the most cynical of us utterly bereft of words. It is, or should be, a deal-breaker among decent people.
And please, Glenn Greenwald, spare me the tired shtick about how Paul raises important issues that no one on the left is raising, and so even though youre not endorsing him, it is still helpful to a progressive narrative that his voice be heard. Bullshit. The stronger Paul gets the stronger Paul gets, period. And the stronger Paul gets, the stronger libertarianism gets, and thus, the Libertarian Party as a potential third party: not the Greens, mind you, but the Libertarians. And the stronger Paul gets, the stronger become those voices who worship the free market as though it were an invisible fairy godparent, capable of dispensing all good things to all comers people like Paul Ryan, for instance, or Scott Walker. In a nation where the dominant narrative has long been anti-tax, anti-regulation, poor-people-bashing and God-bless-capitalism, it would be precisely those aspects of Pauls ideological grab bag that would become more prominent. And if you dont know that, you are a fool of such Herculean proportions as to suggest that Salon might wish to consider administering some kind of political-movement-related-cognitive skills test for its columnists, and the setting of a minimum cutoff score, below which you would, for this one stroke of asininity alone, most assuredly fall.
I mean, seriously, if raising important issues is all it takes to get some kind words from liberal authors, bloggers and activists, and maybe even votes from some progressives, just so as to shake things up, then why not support David Duke? With the exception of his views on the drug war, David shares every single view of Pauls that can be considered progressive or left in orientation. Every single one. So where do you draw the line? Must one have actually donned a Klan hood and lit a cross before his handful of liberal stands prove to be insufficient? Must one actually, as Duke has been known to do, light candles on a birthday cake for Hitler on April 20, before it no longer proves adequate to want to limit the overzealous reach of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms? Exactly when does one become too much of an evil fuck even for you? Inquiring minds seriously want to know...
http://www.timwise.org/2012/01/of-broken-clocks-presidential-candidates-and-the-confusion-of-certain-white-liberals/
Rand is no different than Ron. He and the Libertarians and want this government gone so their sponsors can steal America. EOM.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023321236#post3
I grew up hearing (not from my family, thank god) that not only did 'Might Makes Right' but 'White Makes Right.' Ain't going back there. No, nope, nah!
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2016 POLL: Rand Paul, darling of wingnuts across the political spectrum, now leads the pack. [View all]
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
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See? 'Rand Paul is a Uniter, not a Divider.' Hugs and kisses. Yeah, that's what I meant to say...
freshwest
Jul 2013
#15
I think they support his stand on privacy issues as many Democrats do as well.
avaistheone1
Jul 2013
#21
They didn't 'get behind him'. They agree with his position on surveillance, and so do
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#46
It would have been an educational experience and prevented them demoralizing some now.
freshwest
Jul 2013
#38
I don't believe the Republican neoconservative establishment will support him in a general election
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#19
Everything, absolutely everything the Pauls do is selfish and calculated. Fuck them. n/t
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#23
16% !!! I do hope we see another 2012 with the whackjobs jostling to see if anyone can break 20%
struggle4progress
Jul 2013
#25
Yes. Hillary mauled him when Paul tried to get in her grill during Senate hearings.
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#40
At the rate things are going, Rand doesn't need your stinkin' votes! Banana republicans forvever!
freshwest
Jul 2013
#39
Any group that holds a sign in support of Rand Paul is a fucking joke. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#48
Obama held up his support and affection for Tom Coburn in Time Magazine...
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#57
Rand 'What's That On Your Head' Paul will not even be their nominee, I doubt
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#56