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Solly Mack

(90,740 posts)
15. I read what they said and to me all I heard was
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 06:41 PM
Jul 2013

a way to make people feel better about it all.


I don't think it a good idea to hold any expectations about what they said....beyond what they actually said.


The Congress, the courts and the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which the 9/11 Commission recommended, each have critically important roles to play. This board is essential to balancing the impact of the government’s security measures in the aftermath of Sept. 11 with our civil liberties. It has taken a decade to get the board up and running. Now that the Senate has confirmed a chairman, it is time for the board to get to work in a transparent manner on this surveillance program.

We are stronger as a nation when we understand what the government is doing. This does not mean sharing sensitive intelligence with the public. A public debate poses challenges when it involves classified information that dribbles out, obfuscated by misinformation. But there is certainly far more we can discuss openly.

President Barack Obama has rightly called for a national discussion, which his administration and Congress should convene. It is unfortunate that this conversation begins only when an unauthorized leaker divulges secrets he has agreed, under penalty of law, to keep. But the issues are now before the public. It is time to trust the American people’s judgment about where to strike the balance between what is, after all, their security and their freedom.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/its-time-to-debate-nsa-programs-94634.html#ixzz2a6DOEx1r


They're talking about having a public debate about the issues - which in many ways that is what us going on now....and a national discussion - "President Barack Obama has rightly called for a national discussion, which his administration and Congress should convene." So, Congress and the President will discuss it.


They complain about it taking a decade for - " It has taken a decade to get the board up and running. Now that the Senate has confirmed a chairman, it is time for the board to get to work in a transparent manner on this surveillance program." - Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (which the (they) 9/11 Commission recommended) to get a chairman - and how that board can now oversee these issues and to assure the public.












Well that makes me even more certain the NSA 'story' is Bush legacy rehab tour, where blm Jul 2013 #1
Sad to hear you say that blm... KoKo Jul 2013 #2
Lee Hamilton has been a go-to guy for Bush coverups since IranContra. That's why he was chosen blm Jul 2013 #3
Are you saying that KoKo Jul 2013 #5
GOP strategists know whenever they can blur image of THEIR guys and Dems THEY win blm Jul 2013 #18
I have no use for Lee Hamilton. Solly Mack Jul 2013 #4
I've always see Hamilton as a FIXER insider working for both parties. KoKo Jul 2013 #6
Oh, Hamilton is a "fixer" all right. Solly Mack Jul 2013 #7
So what do Hamilton and Kean get out of this? KoKo Jul 2013 #9
I didn't say they were trying to bring down Obama. Never. Not once. Solly Mack Jul 2013 #12
Sorry...I was expecting a little more about WHY a Fixer would put this KoKo Jul 2013 #14
I read what they said and to me all I heard was Solly Mack Jul 2013 #15
I did like this statement by them...What do you think of it? KoKo Jul 2013 #16
I'm not commenting on another DUer's comment. Solly Mack Jul 2013 #17
Good links...thanks..and we shall see what we shall see when "they get around to it." KoKo Jul 2013 #20
9/11 commission didn't go far enough. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #8
Yes...but, there are good people..long time DU'ers posting here KoKo Jul 2013 #11
There's a surprise. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #10
They didn't trash Snowden or accuse him of treason...and that was interesting...! KoKo Jul 2013 #21
"No Question" CIA Attempted "to Impede Our Investigation" Article with CNN Video KoKo Jul 2013 #13
I hope Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton message gets through. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #19
Translation: westerebus Jul 2013 #22
Ok...I was too optimistic on Hamilton and Kean doing anything that moved forward KoKo Jul 2013 #23
No need for a sorry. westerebus Jul 2013 #24
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