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last1standing

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18. I think there are a lot of correct answers in this thread that need to be combined.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jul 2013

I've lived in Metro-Detroit my entire life, 45 years now, and I've seen Detroit go from a city of over a million to the little over 500,000 living there today. As such, I think I can at least give a shallow answer to what went wrong.

First, Detroit's initial boom relied on one industry, automotive manufacturing. While much of the actual assembly line work was done in suburbs like Dearborn, Pontiac, and Hamtramck, the Big Three ruled the city for many years and used this influence to keep out any real alternative industry that could possibly usurp their place. They also forced out mass transit in their push to show Detroit as the model city for automobiles, hence "Motor City." As the Big Three became more complacent and the Reagan insane trade deals with Japan allowed more foreign cars into the US market (as well as allowing them to dump steel below cost), the jobs started to dry up.

Of course, the loss of jobs and tax revenue in the city meant less influence which was used by out-state legislators to cut funding for services such as schools, police, medical care, etc..., which is another reason Detroit has failed. There has always been an antagonistic relationship between Metro-Detroit and the rest of the state, and even though a majority lives in areas directly influenced by the city the majority of legislators come from districts that are either considered "out-state" or from republican havens such as Oakland County or the Grosse Pointes. These legislators have always had the knife in for Detroit and use it at every opportunity. Much of this hatred stems from "white-flight" which occurred in the late 60's through the 70's which led to Detroit having a population that is currently 90% African-American. I was just a kid during this time but I still remember the rampant racism where I lived. Black jokes were considered polite conversation and rarely objected to and this racism still lives on in the congressional halls of Lansing.

With declining funds for education, the population became less and less educated. Modern companies do not want to relocate to an area where the work force must be taught the very basics like how to read or add and subtract. Even when the schools did have massive budgets, the corrupt school board used the funds for personal gain. I wish I could say it was a few bad apples but it wasn't. The corruption was spread throughout the entire board with very few exceptions. Almost none of the money the schools received went to educating children.

And the corruption wasn't limited to the school board. Coleman Young started out as a decent mayor with a grand vision, unfortunately by the time he finally retired, his legacy was one of nepotism, fraud, race-baiting, and downright theft. I remember when he died, they found he had invested heavily in South African krugerrands during Aparthied - at the same time he was advocating the boycott. We did get a very good mayor, Dennis Archer, but he only stayed on for two terms before the infamous Kwame Kilpatrick was elected. Kilpatrick wanted to be the first 'gansta' mayor and that was probably his only successful venture before finally being convicted and sent to prison. His only accomplishment was in managing to take credit for the deals Archer had set up before leaving office. Now we have Dave Bing who has never had a chance to be a good, or bad, mayor because the funds aren't there to work with.

Racism, corruption, an uneducated population, and a single-industry economy that went south are the major reasons Detroit has declined through the years, not the unions. As has always been the case, the unions helped turn Detroit into one of the best places to live for many years by establishing wages, work hours and worker safety rules that created the middle class in America. Labor costs have never been the major detriment to building cost effective cars. The problem has always been a lack of innovation, short term profits over long term strategy, and ever increasing executive pay.

I hope this helped.

So Detroit- what went wrong? [View all] Lee-Lee Jul 2013 OP
I'll take "corruption and nepotism" for 200, Alex (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #1
I can go with that. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #24
Kicking the can down the roadism. Pensions, TBTF bank loans, Wall Street fuckery. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #2
So, weren't one of those republican "city managers" running the city? Javaman Jul 2013 #3
They have lost 60% of their population since 1950 hack89 Jul 2013 #4
Quite simply, Detroit and much of what was industrialized Michigan, is a testament... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #5
This^^ Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #11
Two full generations from now, the US as it is today and the wreckage of what it once was Javaman Jul 2013 #23
Carls Jr., Fuck You, I'm Eating! datasuspect Jul 2013 #25
spot on n/t handmade34 Jul 2013 #26
Great comment, and many in this thread. Detroit is AMERICA. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #29
We are now are fascist/corporatist experimentation chamber MrScorpio Jul 2013 #31
We stopped being citizen when the started referring to us a consumers Javaman Jul 2013 #32
+ + byeya Jul 2013 #38
Shrinking Crepuscular Jul 2013 #6
Decades Of Decline... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #7
Sure. Igel Jul 2013 #21
The Bethlehem Steel plant at Sparrows Point did not have to be closed. It was closed because byeya Jul 2013 #40
What Kharma Train says.... Demoiselle Jul 2013 #43
Agreed. Detroit is also a one-industry economy, kwassa Jul 2013 #49
The state of Michigan (Governor Snyder) stripped Detroit of all its independent authority and Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #8
The ball was rolling long before Bay Boy Jul 2013 #27
Everything. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
Unionized Detroit abandoned by Big 3 for non-unionized locales in the South. reformist2 Jul 2013 #10
Governor Rick Snyder and Dennis Archer and Kwame Kilpatrick and years of mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #12
I spent the first 35 of my 66 years tavernier Jul 2013 #13
I think a better question would be what can be manufactured there? whttevrr Jul 2013 #14
Outsoucrcing of good decent paying jobs. Chisox08 Jul 2013 #15
'reagan democrats' KG Jul 2013 #16
Best answer! Oilwellian Jul 2013 #45
Factories moving to suburbs, school quality, corruption, corruption, corruption JPZenger Jul 2013 #17
I think there are a lot of correct answers in this thread that need to be combined. last1standing Jul 2013 #18
Fantastic summary! DoBotherMe Jul 2013 #28
Excellent. moondust Jul 2013 #35
Destroying unions, outsourcing jobs, crushing wages. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #19
Boom and bust FarCenter Jul 2013 #20
Complacency, corruption, crime..... NCTraveler Jul 2013 #22
Detroit is an industrial town in a post-industrial US gollygee Jul 2013 #30
andthe courts and the law ignore them ceonupe Jul 2013 #33
The AG says Snyder has to follow both the US and the MI constitution gollygee Jul 2013 #34
Federal bankruptcy supercedes this order ceonupe Jul 2013 #37
Got a link? Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #39
The state can request that the filing be withdrawn, but it is up to the Federal court to dismiss it. FarCenter Jul 2013 #42
and if the state can't pursue the case because it is declared unconstitutional Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #50
The case could proceed with the creditors represented. FarCenter Jul 2013 #52
We shall see.. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #53
The US Constitution grants Congress the right implement bankruptcy law FarCenter Jul 2013 #54
But the MI State constitution does not give the Governor the ability Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #55
The case has already been filed FarCenter Jul 2013 #56
I am saying what the Republican AG who represents Snyder said to the paper gollygee Jul 2013 #46
Would set an interesting precedent Crepuscular Jul 2013 #36
$2 trillion over what time period? PETRUS Jul 2013 #44
The auto industry built Detroit... DCBob Jul 2013 #41
Book recommendation MountainLaurel Jul 2013 #47
Thanks folks. I learned a lot n/t Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #48
Years of nation-wide support by politicians for let's-send-manufacturing-jobs-to-foreign-countries AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #51
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