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In reply to the discussion: "US worse than the USSR"? American Amnesia of the worst sort [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)12. You are ruining perfectly good faux outrage!!!
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Ask the Native Americans and African Slaves the same questions. We're immaculate.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#1
Yep, those were all horrible things. And the US is STILL not worse than the USSR.
renie408
Jul 2013
#58
I am saying that, as a whole, the US does not have the same history of human rights
renie408
Jul 2013
#67
Do you know what binary thinking is? Cause I don't think you are using that phrase correctly.
renie408
Jul 2013
#83
You are right. We are worse because we are more hypocritical and blind to our own crimes
leveymg
Jul 2013
#131
Lots of people who rooted for the USSR during the cold war are still bitter. nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#5
Well, they have an 'entourage' called Wikileaks but yes, you're probably right.
randome
Jul 2013
#14
The USSR was fighting a civil war (funded from the west) nearly right up to ww2. Post WW2
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#24
In upwards of 60 million people died under the Soviet regime from 1917 to 1959.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#35
Both sides summarily executed hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#44
wtf does 'died under the soviet regime' even mean? all deaths? The first statement referred
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#39
1. that doesn't answer my request. 2. rudy rummel = not a scholar, but a propagandist.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#64
no. they are 'backed up' by a limited number of sources which all feed on each other.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#77
well, he's no leftist. his orientation was religious & nationalist. but let's stick with the topic
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#84
does that mean your claim that "he USSR was a death machine post WWII for many decades"
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#133
Uh no. Because population growth has little or nothing to do with killings.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#137
"a death machine" does, in fact, imply decreasing population. "A problem with killings" does not.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#145
When you call the post-war USSR a death machine for several decades, which you did,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#154
Are you waxing philosophical or attempting to argue the literal meaning of "death machine?"
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#156
If a country is a death machine, that is not a limited claim. It's a generalized claim.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#157
Take it from this Snowden supporter: Stalin most certainly carried out genocide in the USSR
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#57
Genocide = "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#59
you haven't presented any impartial scholarship. impartial scholarship would mean using the same
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#161
He mostly let Molotov and Berea craft the orders, but he was definitley behind it.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#71
There's no scholarly consensus about the extent and causes of the Holodomor, other than a famine
leveymg
Jul 2013
#143
I View It As A Perverse Sort Of 'We're Number One!' Cheerleading For The Ol' U. S. of A., Ma'am
The Magistrate
Jul 2013
#9
We Are Number One In Best-Ness, Sir --- Let's See Them Rooskis Top That!
The Magistrate
Jul 2013
#22
That is because the US is a paragon of the inverted totalitarian system
nadinbrzezinski
Jul 2013
#27
This revisionism brings to mind Orwell's notes on Nationalism, specifically the negative nationalism
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#13
a mirror to those who would have us believe that any faction backed by the US is 'right'.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#26
nobody 'dismissed' anything. the fact is that the empire creates the frame. the frame sets up
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#124
They had freedom of the press for 2 fucking years in the 1910s and that means they're better?
DevonRex
Jul 2013
#162
Not a nationalist, just a citizen who thinks we still have a chance for redemption
Hekate
Jul 2013
#190
Sadly, whether we want it to or not, that is what's happening. Like the USSR, for largely the same
leveymg
Jul 2013
#32
Guess you haven't heard about the profiteeting U.S. prisons and its slave labor. nt
valerief
Jul 2013
#30
Oh, golly. I await the witch trials. And have you seen your neighbors in the stocks lately?
Hekate
Jul 2013
#93
But hey, the suppression of all religions means they didn't have Jesus shoved down their throats!
Hekate
Jul 2013
#207
I should have freedom from it but it's in my pledge of allegiance and on my currency.
valerief
Jul 2013
#216
Are you required to attend church? Are you required to pray in government buildings and classrooms?
Hekate
Jul 2013
#217
We don't have to be "as bad as" to point at something and say this is wrong.
Agnosticsherbet
Jul 2013
#34
No. We just drive them crazy by holding them in solitary confinement for many years.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#108
+1. not just in absolute numbers, but also per capita. and do we work them? yes, we do, &
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#49
I know there is no comparison, but I was watching a group of Walmart employees sitting together
renie408
Jul 2013
#95
Could you please link me to a post in which someone said the US is worse than the USSR?
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#110
So, tacking your personal attack to the end of your comment, like you did, makes it OK?
renie408
Jul 2013
#205
Yes, and do we even know how many lives were lost in Central America with the U.S. propping up
avaistheone1
Jul 2013
#98
Huh, tried that too. The hyperbole I got back was that I was somehow a "Randian."
Pholus
Jul 2013
#182
Yes, we are so noted for our intelligent discourse these days. Passion I understand....
Hekate
Jul 2013
#187
I would not say we are worse than the USSR. That would be a gross exaggeration.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#96
I've got way too many irons in the fire today. Apparently, I commented in that thread and
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#123
Just look who's the Russian Allies Today compare to the US allies, it tells a lot. Nt
Sand Wind
Jul 2013
#119
Thanks so much for your input. Those votes won't suppress themselves, you know.
Hekate
Jul 2013
#195
I surely do want this country to improve, Cleita, but spreading misinformation will not do it
Hekate
Jul 2013
#180
I sure didn't, and I've been exceptionally critical of the intelligence and military complex
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#147
Likewise a lot of posters in this thread display blithering ignorance of historical facts...
Hekate
Jul 2013
#179
If the President of the United States were white, would we even be having this conversation??
Major Hogwash
Jul 2013
#142