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Cha

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Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:09 AM Jul 2013

Bob Cesca desconstructs Snowden's message from Moscow [View all]

Snowden Emerges with Bizarre New Remarks, Implies that He Might Be Assassinated

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Snowden continued:

While the public has cried out support of my shining a light on this secret system of injustice, the Government of the United States of America responded with an extrajudicial man-hunt costing me my family, my freedom to travel, and my right to live peacefully without fear of illegal aggression.

There’s a lot to unpack in that sentence, so let’s start at the beginning

When Snowden wrote that he shined “a light on this secret system of injustice,” we can assume he meant that he was just one of many people who have shined lights on the NSA. As others have noted, the data mining process has been well documented by a variety of reporters and authors pre-Snowden. The FISA court warrants, overseas wiretaps, the minimization process, metadata collection — it’s all been written about before and received with varying degrees of public outrage.

[div class="excerpt"]When Snowden wrote that he shined “a light on this secret system of injustice,” we can assume he meant that he was just one of many people who have shined lights on the NSA. As others have noted, the data mining process has been well documented by a variety of reporters and authors pre-Snowden. The FISA court warrants, overseas wiretaps, the minimization process, metadata collection — it’s all been written about before and received with varying degrees of public outrage.
Next, Snowden wrote that the United States engaged in “an extrajudicial manhunt.” Extrajudicial manhunt? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Not to jump too far ahead, but he wrote something similar in the Wikileaks statement in which he accused the United States of using “extralegal” methods. What exactly has the U.S. done in pursuit of Snowden that’s fallen outside the bounds of the law? Nothing that we’re aware of, and if he has proof of illegal activity, he should let us know


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And finally, Snowden wrote, “I remain free and able to publish information that serves the public interest.” Obviously, he has more documents he intends to release to the press. However, this contradicts a tweet posted by Glenn Greenwald: “NOTE: Snowden’s leak is basically done. It’s newspapers – not Snowden – deciding what gets disclosed and in what sequence.” In other words, Snowden’s got nothing left and isn’t deciding what to publish.

These guys need to get their stories straight.

Later, Greenwald clarified with a twisty bit of verbal gymnastics: “I didn’t say Snowden couldn’t leak more documents if he wanted to.” Oh, so the “leak is basically done” is kind of like “mostly dead.”

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Much more.. the whole article is interesting from a reaily point of view..
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/07/snowden-emerges-with-new-remarks-implies-that-he-might-be-assassinated/

From Bob.. "Before these statements were released, Jonathan Capehart wrote that Snowden had “jumped the shark” by “flirting with Russia.” I appreciate the observation, but it wasn’t the first time and I’m afraid there are many more sharks still waiting to be jumped."

Snowden's a liar.. some people got that at the beginning.. when his resume was exposed.. now he's just playin' to his crowd.
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Great article - EVERYONE on DU should take the time to read the full thing Tx4obama Jul 2013 #1
Exactly, Tx.. the message from Moscow Cha Jul 2013 #2
It seems he's found a few "inconsistencies" in Greenwald's statements. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #47
Yes, more than a few disingenuous claims, Kitty. nm Cha Jul 2013 #55
K&R His recent remarks have definitely been bizarre and disturbing Number23 Jul 2013 #3
Mahalo 23.. It's really disturbing to me that Snowden's throwing all these Cha Jul 2013 #4
As soon as Snowden loses his value to Koch brothers, he will meet the fate of other straw dogs: freshwest Jul 2013 #5
Exactly, fresh! It's Koch bros who are trying to annihilate basic Cha Jul 2013 #7
Yes! But a fantasy that is not his alone. And it's trending, too. freshwest Jul 2013 #52
The ONLY interests that are being served here... sheshe2 Jul 2013 #6
Snowden did flee like a thief in the night, she.. Cha Jul 2013 #8
However, the usual suspects are getting media attention now, instead of helping people: freshwest Jul 2013 #11
yeah, well we know paul ryan lies.. we learned that from his election campaign Cha Jul 2013 #14
Wait! Wait! I found our savior following links. This guy is gonna fix everything, and he's close by! freshwest Jul 2013 #17
Yes, Canada! So beautiful.. but then so Cha Jul 2013 #19
Oh, no, no. That Mountie is screen saver material! freshwest Jul 2013 #22
Wait! Wait! I thought Obama demanded he be drawn and quartered, and his head put on a stake! freshwest Jul 2013 #23
I have to say that Snowden generates no anger from me, anymore than any other pawn. freshwest Jul 2013 #9
I wonder why GeeGee says he's done, stick a fork in him flamingdem Jul 2013 #10
GG's book or film deal on this circus may have fallen through. ES isn't doing the job intended: freshwest Jul 2013 #16
Yes, basic rights vs. Libertarian rights flamingdem Jul 2013 #40
Color me pragmatic. I'm not interested in trials of these gadflies. I want private contracts gone, freshwest Jul 2013 #50
OK, which DUer is commenting on the article?? flamingdem Jul 2013 #12
there's others out there who aren't impressed by the mighty Cha Jul 2013 #15
Poor poor Snowed In~ He is hefting his shovel, trying to dig himself out! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #34
Snowedin.. that's a Cha Jul 2013 #36
You forgot the Paul Revere tshirt version! flamingdem Jul 2013 #41
Sorry... sheshe2 Jul 2013 #56
Snowed in, LOL. I remember your winter in Boston. And on waxen wings. Another brief flame. Be nice! freshwest Jul 2013 #51
These are precious flamingdem Jul 2013 #13
Okay, Priceless! Cha Jul 2013 #18
Don't worry, the century's still young. Plenty of chances to screw up: freshwest Jul 2013 #20
" . . . now he's just playin' to his crowd." Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #21
If Greenwald were so Cha Jul 2013 #26
Wow. ucrdem Jul 2013 #24
"Crazy talk" brilliantly deconstructed by the Cha Jul 2013 #27
Ron Paul said Obama might kill Snowden with a drone arely staircase Jul 2013 #25
Ron Paul or Rand Paul? Either one isn't working with a full Cha Jul 2013 #28
Ron Paul arely staircase Jul 2013 #30
Yeah, I'll just bet he's worried. He's more interested in stirring up Cha Jul 2013 #32
I am really starting to think this "Moscow Eddie" guy needs a cat scan or an MRI or something.... MADem Jul 2013 #29
Could be, MADem.. my thought was it's a mixture of being fed Cha Jul 2013 #31
Those frontal lobe lesions can make a sane man crazy, make an introvert an extrovert, make a MADem Jul 2013 #35
thanks for explaining that.. maybe we'll see much futher down Cha Jul 2013 #37
The article comments astutely observed flamingdem Jul 2013 #43
Showing her face in public is sobering enough! randome Jul 2013 #49
Priceless. baldguy Jul 2013 #33
It is so Cha Jul 2013 #38
on of the comments treestar Jul 2013 #39
The Snowden Awards! Like the Darwin Awards but for naivete above and beyond the call of reason. randome Jul 2013 #42
Here's the statuette that the winner will receive! flamingdem Jul 2013 #45
He needs to have a big-ass thumb drive in his hand! randome Jul 2013 #48
That "winner" cracked me up last night. From Moscow.. Cha Jul 2013 #53
LOL treestar Jul 2013 #57
I saw that pic of pooty. lol nm Cha Jul 2013 #58
lot of disinfo to unpack here but 1 that jumps out is the whole 'no more to publish' myth usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #44
On the "stateless" claim: ProSense Jul 2013 #46
Good for Think Progress for pointing Cha Jul 2013 #54
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