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163. TM's poor father broke into tears listening to her atrocious testimony

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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:59 PM

Jun 2013

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He's obviously fearful that GM will get away with murder.

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ZIMMERMAN TRIAL: Day 3, Wednesday June 26 [View all] GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 OP

Jane Surdyka, resident at the place, testifying now. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #1

Surdyka testifying she heard exchange of two voices. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #2

Scuffling back and forth, like "wrestling" nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #4

Two yells for help. SOUNDED LIKE A BOY'S VOICE. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #5

a very angry and aggressive voice riverwalker Jun 2013 #3

The boys voice yelling for help. bravenak Jun 2013 #6

Her 911 call is so moving, so human. KurtNYC Jun 2013 #7

Very emotional 911 call from her. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #8

he is cooked frylock Jun 2013 #116

"why would someone kill someone like that" bunnies Jun 2013 #9

Clearly goes against a self-defense story. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #10

Yep. I dont know how he gets off after this. bunnies Jun 2013 #12

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #14

WAIT!!! None of GZ's DNA on TMs hands?!?! Z said T covered his mouth to keep him from uponit7771 Jun 2013 #11

"I heard him yell for help"--ON THE 911 call. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #13

POWERFUL witness for the prosecution! GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #15

Surdyka is a really strong witness for the avebury Jun 2013 #16

She grabbed for a tissue. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #18

She had to wipe a tear. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #19

If I were walking at night and something forced me to drop my phone and earpiece (as Trayvon did)... fried eggs Jun 2013 #17

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #20

Excellent point. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #27

Defense is going to have to be very careful with her. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #21

WHY are they not showing this on Tru-TV or Court TV? HLN is horrible sad-cafe Jun 2013 #22

Uninterrupted online feed: Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #23

thanks riverwalker Jun 2013 #26

Go to the link I posted in the OP. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #24

Thanks GreenStormCloud! Logical Jun 2013 #25

She keeps saying that she heard three shots. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #28

Could have been echos... The defense is requiring the witness's to be 100% about non gating uponit7771 Jun 2013 #29

The townhomes in the area of the shooting form a close "U" Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #31

"I can only tell you what I saw and he was faced down." nt avebury Jun 2013 #30

West getting little rough with her riverwalker Jun 2013 #32

She is holding up pretty well. She is staying pretty avebury Jun 2013 #33

Has to take down her testimony. It will be interesting when chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #34

She has a conflict. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #36

z got on top of him some point after shooting him arely staircase Jun 2013 #42

Z said in his report to FBI he got on top of TM uponit7771 Jun 2013 #47

This is the witness they should have used yesterday. nt avebury Jun 2013 #35

I think they were expecting more from yesterday's witness. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #37

Yesterday's witness did testify that she saw the two standing while fighting. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #39

She, of all people, is entitled to her opinion fried eggs Jun 2013 #46

I have to go to work now. I will depend on DU posters to keep me informed. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #38

Another resident, Jeannie Manalo is testifying. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #40

Heard a "howling" sound, later sounded like yelling for help. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #41

Testified that she saw a neighbor come out during fight, asked if they need to call police. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #43

Believes person on top in fight was Zimmerman based on body size. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #44

Heard cries for help but not sure who said it. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #45

That would make sense relative to Z's statement afterwards, I don't believe for a second TM uponit7771 Jun 2013 #48

West is questioning riverwalker Jun 2013 #49

...that was a stupid question the defense raised uponit7771 Jun 2013 #51

Loved BDLR's redirect pokerfan Jun 2013 #55

The witness (Jane) told 911 operator she couldn't think of anyone she could call to talk fried eggs Jun 2013 #50

They are calling back the 911 records custodian. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #52

starting to play the other calls by Zimmerman riverwalker Jun 2013 #53

"they typically run away" riverwalker Jun 2013 #56

the defense didn't want the calls allowed in KurtNYC Jun 2013 #58

My understanding is there are a bunch of em about black kids in his neighborhood uponit7771 Jun 2013 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author riverwalker Jun 2013 #66

these defense lawyers are sleeping pills arely staircase Jun 2013 #54

done on purpose to put jury to sleep uponit7771 Jun 2013 #62

RACHEL JENTELE ON NOW (was on the phone with Trayvon right before shooting) nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #57

"a man is watching me" riverwalker Jun 2013 #59

She told Trayvon it might have been a rapist. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #60

Trayvon told her he was going to leave the mail box area, start walking home. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #65

She then told him to run. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #67

She lost the phone call, called back. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #71

A voice said to Trayvon, "What are you doing here?" Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #79

Weird how they're having so much trouble understanding her. woolldog Jun 2013 #72

Well I don't think she's coached, that's for sure. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #75

She "he might be a rapist" riverwalker Jun 2013 #63

She thought Zim might be a rapist (!) KurtNYC Jun 2013 #61

said he was going home riverwalker Jun 2013 #68

said he lost him riverwalker Jun 2013 #69

he is behind me riverwalker Jun 2013 #74

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Oh hello there. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #73

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Apparently, you'd find her more believable if he was speaking the Queens English? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #83

that's how kids talk riverwalker Jun 2013 #78

So what? the trial is about his murder, not about his slurs. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #80

really?! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #81

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buh-bye riverwalker Jun 2013 #88

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no amount of evidence will convince racist assholes noiretextatique Jun 2013 #98

Next we'll hear that Zimmerman had to be innocent because he was half Hispanic and a registered Dem. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #87

Enjoy your stay. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #84

YOU? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #97

Looks like the pro-zimmerman racists are back after a one year hiatus. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #103

quite a few of them today noiretextatique Jun 2013 #154

RJ Hears Trayvon say "get off ... get off" uponit7771 Jun 2013 #77

I think she just completely destroyed Zimmys narrative... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #82

They will have to go after her REALLY REALLY tough...the "get off, get off" part is horrible uponit7771 Jun 2013 #86

I think so too. I'm dreading what the defense has planned... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #89

oh wow, I have tears in my eyes sad-cafe Jun 2013 #93

They are going to be a caged animal at this point. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #99

devastating testimony riverwalker Jun 2013 #92

The defense may have to be tough on her but if they go to avebury Jun 2013 #104

I didn't want to see the body...omg, for a teenager...I felt what she said in a split second uponit7771 Jun 2013 #90

Wow, that was powerful stuff. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #96

She told the parents she felt guilty for being the LAST PERSON talking to TM, that's why uponit7771 Jun 2013 #94

15 min recess Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #95

WHY IS THE PA OR JUDGE allowing questions about where she went?! Who cares?! It's not relevant uponit7771 Jun 2013 #100

I think because the defense will try to discredit her about the wake so KurtNYC Jun 2013 #102

...but why would the judge allow the questions on the wake in the first place? I don't understa uponit7771 Jun 2013 #105

Defense could have used it as impeachment material. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #110

Because, if I understand this correctly, she didn't come forward right away KurtNYC Jun 2013 #112

Diffuses the defense's argument. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #106

The "knock knock" lawyer was objecting to her answering in narrative form (?) KurtNYC Jun 2013 #101

...what a jerk...I pray TM's friend rips them a whole new Orifice uponit7771 Jun 2013 #107

Zim's lawyers will have to try to make TM out as the aggressor KurtNYC Jun 2013 #111

Her story has not changed riverwalker Jun 2013 #108

Doesn't appear embelished, either. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #109

My feed keeps on freezing. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #113

this works good riverwalker Jun 2013 #114

Defense now saying there's 30-40 min between Trayvon @ store and Zimmy calling cops on him Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #115

I don't know why they focus on this riverwalker Jun 2013 #117

I think they're trying to imply that he lingered, didn't go directly Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #118

Google Maps pokerfan Jun 2013 #159

father is breaking down weeping n/t riverwalker Jun 2013 #119

Travon's father warrior1 Jun 2013 #120

I can't watch the parents (I assume the woman next to him is the mother) without starting to cry... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #122

he had to do police work riverwalker Jun 2013 #125

Defense asking why she didn't contact cops after learning of Trayvon's death Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #121

No relevance, just as there was no relevance to defense asking if they met chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #128

The knock knock guy gets on my nerves. avebury Jun 2013 #123

I don't think the jury is going to like him riverwalker Jun 2013 #126

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #131

I wish this witness would be told to speak more loudly. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #124

I don't think volume is really the issue. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #130

Defense now questioning her motives in making testimony to attorneys Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #127

the defense is trying to get her to blow up sad-cafe Jun 2013 #129

wow...what jerks uponit7771 Jun 2013 #132

This poor girl Marrah_G Jun 2013 #133

Caged animals. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #135

i am not sure anyone is buying his argument noiretextatique Jun 2013 #150

Defense now repeatedly bringing up that witness lied Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #134

Defense asking if witness was aware that her testimony in first inteview would go to press Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #136

that defense attorney is really irritating noiretextatique Jun 2013 #147

I'm trying to be as impartial as I can be.. BUT Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #149

he seems and odd choice noiretextatique Jun 2013 #156

where is knock knock going with this? n/t riverwalker Jun 2013 #137

I have no clue where he wants to go with this...?? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #138

Did Trayvon like you, or did he *like you*? Wink, wink. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #139

Asking about her expectations about becoming Trayvon's girlfriend Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #140

Seems he is trying to wear her down riverwalker Jun 2013 #141

15 min recess n/t riverwalker Jun 2013 #143

Poor girl Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #148

I like Rachel. I think she's very credible. dmr Jun 2013 #142

i saw that part noiretextatique Jun 2013 #151

She's terrible cpwm17 Jun 2013 #152

She is a teenager. What else did you expect? avebury Jun 2013 #155

Whatever the reasons she acts this way cpwm17 Jun 2013 #158

i thought she held her noiretextatique Jun 2013 #157

I didn't find her to be like that at all Marrah_G Jun 2013 #162

She's a hot mess B2G Jun 2013 #160

TM's poor father broke into tears listening to her atrocious testimony cpwm17 Jun 2013 #163

She is a teenage girl Marrah_G Jun 2013 #164

15 min recess Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #144

"Are you listening??" Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #145

she held her own pretty well noiretextatique Jun 2013 #153

Bad witness who is an adult and has been proven to lie and change stories ksoze Jun 2013 #161

She comes across as young and nervous Just Saying Jun 2013 #165

could you be any more condescending? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #166

condescending to whom? ksoze Jun 2013 #167

to her??? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #168

Adjourned for today. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #146