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2. Very Glad To See The Neurons Firing - The Trouble Is That None Really Know How Pervasive This Is

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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:01 PM

Jun 2013

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I personally no longer trust the US government based on just what we do know today.

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Holy. Fucking. Shit. The candle flickers... (NSA) [View all] hootinholler Jun 2013 OP

Of course they are. They are building this data base for their use in their own Cleita Jun 2013 #1

Well, thank God the security apparatus isn't tied with private sector businesses. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #130

Very Glad To See The Neurons Firing - The Trouble Is That None Really Know How Pervasive This Is cantbeserious Jun 2013 #2

The Contractors worry me. hootinholler Jun 2013 #6

Exactly KT2000 Jun 2013 #65

It might also explain why none of the banksters went to jail. n/t hootinholler Jun 2013 #67

They are AEI and the Carlyle Group... go west young man Jun 2013 #96

And What Happens when a Contractor gets hacked? paparush Jun 2013 #114

Part of the BFEE, no less Demeter Jun 2013 #117

Did you ever? Why? leveymg Jun 2013 #8

I joined the Navy at 17 hootinholler Jun 2013 #11

Hey. Glad you didn't accept any assignments up river. leveymg Jun 2013 #23

Post 'Nam hootinholler Jun 2013 #29

No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are... alterfurz Jun 2013 #105

Are they trafficking insider information? Sorry, that's classified. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2013 #3

Don't forget, it's PRIVATE CONTRACTORS doing the surveillance for the NSA. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #4

Absolutely! hootinholler Jun 2013 #9

Oh, I've been here - scarletwoman Jun 2013 #18

ROFL hootinholler Jun 2013 #20

I guess I am, too. I didn't see that you rec'd it! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #32

Heard that, too. MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #15

You caught that too. So much for PGP. Encryption just buys a ticket to attention by an NSA bot, . leveymg Jun 2013 #5

Yes. This is very important. cui bono Jun 2013 #122

So, you're a racist? TransitJohn Jun 2013 #7

Showing some real class Progressive dog Jun 2013 #108

It's picking up on the notion that any criticism of the administration is born in racism hootinholler Jun 2013 #110

and a ratfucker Doctor_J Jun 2013 #119

And NSA hires a lot of private contractors. hay rick Jun 2013 #10

Well, our friends in Congress Ilsa Jun 2013 #13

A revolving door pscot Jun 2013 #28

Yup...but, there s a bright side nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12

Lesson to learn: Use strong encryption. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #14

The bean counters won't invest that in thier infrastructure hootinholler Jun 2013 #16

Catch 22 nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #17

Are you better funded than NSA? Didn't think so. leveymg Jun 2013 #19

It's this thing called math. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #27

So much faith in defeating the experts. So many choices in ways to do that. leveymg Jun 2013 #41

I've learned from a few experts myself. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #44

Should we really have to go to these lengths LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #78

It's obscene that we have to contemplate it. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #83

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #87

Nope, they could never crack it in a million years. JoeyT Jun 2013 #51

Ah. Rubber hose cryptography, as it's known in crypto circles... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #56

How many algorithms once thought strong were later not found to be... PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #102

Can they store it for 10 years? AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #113

It can take millions of years of compute time to crack really strong encryption. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #115

Have you seen the specialized hardware that has developed in the public space for bitcoin mining? AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #116

Unless there are some ungodly breakthroughs in math, near approaching P = NP, you're flat out wrong ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #123

Whatever helps you sleep better at night. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #127

Actually, I don't worry about being "snooped on". My point was math. ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #128

duh ellennelle Jun 2013 #21

Can we say the F-word now? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #22

Always have been able to. hootinholler Jun 2013 #25

I'm *guessing* MNBrewer meant Fascism yodermon Jun 2013 #111

I have been saying F words for some time. truedelphi Jun 2013 #134

I'm sure they probably do Aerows Jun 2013 #24

How would they have a CIsco backdoor? Recursion Jun 2013 #26

Because I have seen some IT magicks in my day hootinholler Jun 2013 #35

Because you can see the traffic that comes in and out of it. Recursion Jun 2013 #38

As reported by whom? hootinholler Jun 2013 #43

As reported by the router I built Recursion Jun 2013 #46

By the time it hits your router, it's already encrypted with Cisco's encryption hootinholler Jun 2013 #55

Take a step back Recursion Jun 2013 #62

It doesn't have to phone home hootinholler Jun 2013 #63

"You can't trust code that you did not totally create yourself" PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #103

Thanks for that hootinholler Jun 2013 #109

It's called CALEA-compliant switches. Google it. Not a national defense secret - mandatory since '95 leveymg Jun 2013 #42

Nope. That doesn't mean what you think it does. Recursion Jun 2013 #45

Your LAN is connected to an ISP, isn't it? leveymg Jun 2013 #53

Yep. And they don't have my encryption key for my VPN Recursion Jun 2013 #54

Who are you talking to inside that hermetically sealed network? leveymg Jun 2013 #58

Huh? It's not crazy to build a router Recursion Jun 2013 #60

Not at all. I've set up enough IP addresses & threaded ethernet cable through ceilings to know leveymg Jun 2013 #73

What "defeat?" Recursion Jun 2013 #77

kr HiPointDem Jun 2013 #30

Are you british? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #31

Actually, no. hootinholler Jun 2013 #139

I like it too. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #140

Yes. That's the problem. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #33

I thought it was obvious lol. By any means possible is how they operate. The Chinese are with you. Catherina Jun 2013 #34

LOL Thus the Candle Flickers comment... hootinholler Jun 2013 #37

Right after posting that Catherina Jun 2013 #50

I have a pretty good foundation on the tech side hootinholler Jun 2013 #61

Did you see that article where China mentioned our "sanctimonious mask"? Read this lol. The irony! Catherina Jun 2013 #66

Yeah, it's pretty thick hootinholler Jun 2013 #69

! Lol! n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #71

I wonder how many accounts have been banned on DU over the years for spouting this 'alleged' Purveyor Jun 2013 #36

I think there's often a kernel of truth to a lot of CTs Jarla Jun 2013 #72

One has to wonder if it isn't by design? eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #74

Indeed Jarla Jun 2013 #82

This hit me a few years back Ruby the Liberal Jun 2013 #39

Everybody better log off right now if you know what's good for you railsback Jun 2013 #40

That matters not hootinholler Jun 2013 #48

Just imagine what Mittens could have done with all this information. grasswire Jun 2013 #47

Wall Street and MIComplex meets NAZIs, Mafia, Eugenicists, Big Oil, Banksters... Octafish Jun 2013 #49

You always bring it big hootinholler Jun 2013 #76

Ultra Inside Traitors, er, Traders Octafish Jun 2013 #91

DMCA violation? mwooldri Jun 2013 #52

Anybody ever buy a stamp? BigMike63 Jun 2013 #57

That's the best-kept secret. S-h-h-h - what are you, some kind of leaker? leveymg Jun 2013 #59

I've been wondering about that as well suffragette Jun 2013 #64

ding ding ding we have a winner VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #68

After the end of the Cold War GHWB shifted the focus from military to economic spying. alfredo Jun 2013 #70

Anything that can be misused sooner or later will be misused Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #75

Oh yes! Turbineguy Jun 2013 #79

What fucking planet are you posting from? hootinholler Jun 2013 #85

Now that is funny but so close to Progressive dog Jun 2013 #124

The NDAA 2014 allows for analysis of stored metadata. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #80

This might need to be an OP siligut Jun 2013 #97

It already is. We've been keeping it kicked for six days with less than 300 views. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #98

Maybe it needs a catchier subline? siligut Jun 2013 #107

Battlestar Galactica predicted this thesquanderer Jun 2013 #81

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #84

Recommend...personal experience is worth getting out there to the rest of us. KoKo Jun 2013 #86

And that is why Romney adieu Jun 2013 #88

"{W}e forgot that the question is NOT, how do we get good people into power. . . . snot Jun 2013 #125

Very interesting observation... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2013 #89

Just "look forward" and don't prosecute anyone, LOL Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #90

Encryption has become quite popular cprise Jun 2013 #92

And they decriminalized their own insider trading as well. n/t mhatrw Jun 2013 #93

+ 1,000,000,000 Yes!!! avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #94

Another thought... blackspade Jun 2013 #95

I said this three days ago. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #99

Have you seen this article before? ReRe Jun 2013 #100

How about Bain Capital harvesting this data for profit? midnight Jun 2013 #101

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #104

That's why we encrypt everything, even internal. TrogL Jun 2013 #106

LOL Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #129

And if not now, in a few years, brute force decryption will become easy. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #112

Very good tavalon Jun 2013 #118

Sort of during coffee hootinholler Jun 2013 #120

And there's more. sofa king Jun 2013 #121

I was going to see if you scooped infowars and the Paulite sites Progressive dog Jun 2013 #126

I have wondered all along what sense this program meant in terms of 'finding a number' etc sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #131

If corporations are in control, then NO, there is no backdoor into Cisco. aquart Jun 2013 #132

Uh, if it is as you say, please say MORE. truedelphi Jun 2013 #133

Fair enough hootinholler Jun 2013 #137

But the NSA and the Federal Government held up the release of open key encription.... Mustellus Jun 2013 #135

Actually its much worse then just that. Think about any company in EU who out-fucking-sourced their idwiyo Jun 2013 #136

Huge K&R for a critically important post. woo me with science Jun 2013 #138