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jeff47

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108. You really think a missile flying twice its range is the simplest answer?

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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:09 PM

Jun 2013

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I'm really interested to hear what you think is the simple answer for how the missile managed to do that.

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The Article RobinA Jun 2013 #81

I remember this. It was horrific... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #2

The six whistle blowers were under a gag order. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #29

So most, if not all of the following must be in on the cover-up? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #72

Do you doubt what was reported? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #111

I remember some NY papers leftynyc Jun 2013 #3

There was no missile. Eye witness testimony is wrong a lot. Read some NTSB.... Logical Jun 2013 #5

I'm well aware of the leftynyc Jun 2013 #13

They Didn't See RobinA Jun 2013 #82

Hey - if you want to believe leftynyc Jun 2013 #87

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I think you're wrong Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #20

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"Do not believe your lying eyes" was the meme Berlum Jun 2013 #11

I paid close attention to this incident leftynyc Jun 2013 #15

Is this supposed to be a photo of TWA 800? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #37

that's the PSA 727 that was hit by a Cessna 172 back in the 70's in California Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #49

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The night of the incident between 3:30 and 4:30 a.m. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #10

I too, saw that clip premium Jun 2013 #22

It took the official investigators four years to discover what Fox new within hours. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #26

Amazing huh? premium Jun 2013 #32

Yes, but what about missiles under development? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #35

I can't 100% say there wasn't a cover up premium Jun 2013 #38

I think that was from Die Hard 2. Orrex Jun 2013 #84

What an oddly written piece jberryhill Jun 2013 #12

Well, gotta stir up excitement somehow. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #18

Let's assume (hypothetically) that it was actually a surface-to-air missile BlueStreak Jun 2013 #56

I don't think you understood my comment jberryhill Jun 2013 #71

I took your point to be that the article was overly dramatic BlueStreak Jun 2013 #73

That's not how engineering works jberryhill Jun 2013 #78

The staged 'sploshun BlueStreak Jun 2013 #88

I remember being told that two maintenace workers at Fire Island, in separate locations byeya Jun 2013 #14

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That's the explanation given and I don't deny it's possibility. These two men in question byeya Jun 2013 #102

Eyewitness testimony is often unreliable ... all 230 of them. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #23

:) Certainly there is a phenomenon of "invented memory" BlueStreak Jun 2013 #75

I remember a radar screenshot in a Denver newspaper showing an object approaching the plane. reformist2 Jun 2013 #16

The exercises weren't "in the vacinity". jeff47 Jun 2013 #19

Occam's razor. reformist2 Jun 2013 #28

You really think a missile flying twice its range is the simplest answer? jeff47 Jun 2013 #108

The point you're trying to make is nullified by those coming forth... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #52

Yet those people coming forward still doesn't double the range of a SAM. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #109

The point is, we're being lied to on a regular basis. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #25

I seem to recall there were military training exercises B2G Jun 2013 #17

Those naval training exercises premium Jun 2013 #24

This is an interesting read B2G Jun 2013 #27

well jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #30

The NTSB or FAA premium Jun 2013 #34

ok jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #39

That's not true... Pilotguy Jun 2013 #41

I stand corrected, premium Jun 2013 #42

That was the big debate at the time... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #53

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They all did... 100 thru 400 series. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #80

I remember seeing John Kerry on Hardball say it was caused by terrorists. City Lights Jun 2013 #31

Convienent, how those "terrorists" always seem to know about our training excercises? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #33

The Big Initial RobinA Jun 2013 #86

We learned WovenGems Jun 2013 #36

Finally! Turbineguy Jun 2013 #40

That's what I was thinking Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #48

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I'm sorry you feel that way Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #62

Um... wow. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #51

Are you kidding? Turbineguy Jun 2013 #64

I was a witness (one of 5) who wasn't on South Shore of LI HockeyMom Jun 2013 #43

They dismissed all witnesses. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #46

Now you're just taking the piss Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #74

You cannot see debris from an explosion HockeyMom Jun 2013 #110

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TWA 800 was shot down by a missile FarCenter Jun 2013 #50

No it was not! But more exciting than real reason I grant you! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #61

TWA 800 was shot down by a UFO Baclava Jun 2013 #54

um... yeah. Thanks for that... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #55

Thank you! zappaman Jun 2013 #59

The Truth is Out There Baclava Jun 2013 #63

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The thing that always struck me as odd was... opiate69 Jun 2013 #65

For starters Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #92

I lived in New Haven, Conn. at the time KamaAina Jun 2013 #66

Tamron Hall is discussing this now n/t malaise Jun 2013 #67

this was before phone hacking so the NY Post sent reporters who posed as "therapists" KurtNYC Jun 2013 #68

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Is there any newly discovered, hard, reliable evidence? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #70

"airliners.net" is amateur hour... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #77

Then like I said... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #83

I think what they're going to say is... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #85

Kinda hard to call a four-year investigation "truncated" Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #89

the government woud not lie about something like this nt markiv Jun 2013 #76

I hate to go all "ATTACKING THE MESSENGER!!!1111111!" Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #90

How does this attack the messenger? Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #91

So Bill Clinton is directly involved in the cover-up? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #93

Oy vey... not even close to this yet... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #95

Being in the business, I followed this mn9driver Jun 2013 #94

Those that are coming fwd are not crackpots... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #96

You *may* be right about that. Then again, mn9driver Jun 2013 #97

But the film's producer is a crackpot (look at his site) Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #100

To say nothing of the fact that Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #98

Ah, but what if it was a Boeing missile? jberryhill Jun 2013 #99

As an aside. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #104

Okay, breathe into the tube jberryhill Jun 2013 #105

In a universe where anything is possible. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #106

Having an infinite bankroll helps jberryhill Jun 2013 #107