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In reply to the discussion: Is it because he's black? [View all]scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)239. So, you're agreeing with the OP that DUers who continue to object to NSA
surveillance are doing so because they're racists? Really? I just want to make sure I've got that right.
Because that's what the OP is saying:
Is it because he's black?
Enough with not trusting Obama's own fucking words. The government is not spying on you. You can post thread after thread after thread yelling and whining about it, but you're posting from a position of BULLSHIT.
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The media isn't really giving this a whole hell of a lot of play. They're continuing on with the "debate" from the false premise that the government is spying on it's own citizens. And boy, are the people sure eating it up. I expect it from the Republicans, but how to explain all the Democrats falling for it? How do we explain the dozens of Democrats even repeating this nonsense on DU day in and day out? I have my hypothesis.
Enough with not trusting Obama's own fucking words. The government is not spying on you. You can post thread after thread after thread yelling and whining about it, but you're posting from a position of BULLSHIT.
<snip>
The media isn't really giving this a whole hell of a lot of play. They're continuing on with the "debate" from the false premise that the government is spying on it's own citizens. And boy, are the people sure eating it up. I expect it from the Republicans, but how to explain all the Democrats falling for it? How do we explain the dozens of Democrats even repeating this nonsense on DU day in and day out? I have my hypothesis.
He's talking about DUers. The OP is what's truly "pathetic".
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"collected involves telephone numbers, duration, and times" is spying. and the white guy did it too
msongs
Jun 2013
#1
When the data no longer belongs to you, you don't get a say in what happens to it*
jeff47
Jun 2013
#27
Then why did Clapper lie about collecting meta-data? He could have said that they
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#90
Gen Alexander said today they are looking at stopping the collection of meta-data.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#250
Do you not understand that because it is legal does not mean the fucking NSA needs to collect it? nt
Logical
Jun 2013
#91
yup. It has already been decided and is LEGAL and the court in 1979 decided this.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#152
The metadata focus is the shiny object and line of the day. The issue is email and profiling.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#222
It is spying because the phone company gave it up under duress and because of the secrecy NSA
RC
Jun 2013
#20
The phone companies used to keep the records for 10 yrs. Storing it isn't new. nt
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#48
Agreed. Maybe someone can tell us the E.O. number of the current Exec. Order that governs that?
leveymg
Jun 2013
#214
And I think that that decision should be revisited. There is too much information on an individual
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#21
It is NOT spying. Making a backup of the meta-data that the telecoms delete is not spying...
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#19
There's no phone content. Once a judge issues a warrant to retrieve meta-data for an individual #
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#177
When it comes to programs cloaked in secrecy, I don't take any politician at his word alone
whatchamacallit
Jun 2013
#31
Because the entire American government has been covering this up for years
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#264
Here is the link. It also shows how many "business records" were requested. Here's an
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#109
no and it's scurrilous to suggest the people like Bernie Sanders and Pat Leahy are bigot.
cali
Jun 2013
#16
If you are a U.S. Citizen, the NSA CAN NOT AND HAVE NOT listened to your phone calls or targeted you
progressoid
Jun 2013
#22
Bob Somerby put it best: Calling other people racists is our side's favorite sport.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#24
I thought there was no doubt the NSA is collecting records of all phone calls in the U.S.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#44
I'd want to be on the other side of Rush, Beck, Hannity, and the Teabaggers myself
Life Long Dem
Jun 2013
#79
Rush, Beck, Hannity, and the Teabaggers probably support oxygen to breathe as well..
frylock
Jun 2013
#187
So do the folks you disagree with. You want to be opposite on Oxygen to breathe too? nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#248
You like to forget that many of us that aren't Reich Wingers NEVER, EVER supported this shit.
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#95
Tripe. Digest this like an adult. I do not trust Obama's words because of the many
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#29
I don't think our Teapublican friends have figured out what to do with all this.....
wandy
Jun 2013
#30
You're kidding. They are feeding us this shit with a spoon, and we are eating it up.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#46
They don't need to do anything while the vast majority on the left continues to blame Obama.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#82
My Tea Party relatives think NSA will target them "like the IRS has." Problem is
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#110
Amazing that all these low count posters are in here defending the despicable actions
bowens43
Jun 2013
#39
People haven't taken into consideration that there are alot of people and outside groups
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#43
Barry to obama, Bubba to bill, what's the difference? you're the one reducing obama to his color...
allin99
Jun 2013
#89
YES! And I wish this site had been around when Clinton was in office, then we'd have a comparison.
redqueen
Jun 2013
#49
Nowhere near the disrespect, derision, and downright hatred. I've never seen anything like it.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#146
It's expected from the other side these days. But this foaming-at-the-mouth invective from dems...
redqueen
Jun 2013
#281
No it's because his polices suck on this issue. Also your post full of untruths.
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#51
Did you read the OP? His accusations are pointed at Democrats and DU posters.
tritsofme
Jun 2013
#78
oh it's clearly meant personally and to chill criticism. whatever else it is and it's many things
cali
Jun 2013
#87
It makes me question the race issue even more when people think they're being targeted.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#148
Hmm... The OP didn't call you or anyone else racist. The OP is suggesting that the treatment of
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#185
You're welcome. My opinion stands: Racism against this president exists. It exists on ALL
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#192
Yes, everything boils down to skin color. Except to those of us who think he is more than just...
allin99
Jun 2013
#81
I don't think you Obama "supporters" have any clue how much damage you are doing to Obama
Bjorn Against
Jun 2013
#84
I campaigned in Phili for Michael Nutter (black mayor) before obama, i'm also black and...
allin99
Jun 2013
#96
You keep repeating these baseless and vile accusations about Democracy Now
suffragette
Jun 2013
#220
Since the word of a known liar has been taken as fact, lying ABOUT what he's "leaking"
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#93
And who would that be? The people posting lies by racist Greenwald for example?
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#176
I would have voted to uphold your post! Calling DU members a racist is unbelievable! n-t
Logical
Jun 2013
#131
Most of those screaming aren't too stupid to understand what Obama says here.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#113
Most of the public in general. Millions think Obama listens to them on the phone.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#137
Nope. It's because he's just another slick politician who lied his way into office.
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2013
#117
I would honestly be embarrassed by this post, if I were on the OP's side of the debate.
Marr
Jun 2013
#139
Bush wasn't black and a lot of folks were upset with his wrong-doing, why would you expect different
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#140
no doubt - it is why Al Gore has spoken out against the surveillance program! No other reason I can
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#212
In November 2008 I was ecstatic. Finally, a black President! Finally, we could get on track!
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#228
You're saying that *all* attacks on Obama are because he's black?
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#265
well, that's a steaming pile. By your, er, lights, no one should ever criticize President Obama
cali
Jun 2013
#271
No. But I can see why that would be a comforting explanation to the hardcore devoted fan club/BOG-er
quinnox
Jun 2013
#240
Deputy head of NSA: queries of database can be authorised by any of 20 analysts and 2 managers
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#279
Limbaugh consistently tells his listeners that his hatred for Pres. Obama is not racially motivated
LanternWaste
Jun 2013
#299
Pfft. If you were really a liberal, you would know we hate white people, not black people.
ZombieHorde
Jun 2013
#308