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Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
35. I just prefer to sit back and watch how things go.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jun 2013

This is a program that has been up and running for a while now.

I do think the debate is necessary.
Thing is, even if I don't trust the government, nor do I trust the guy who sensationalized this. Yes, I don't consider it actual whistleblowing since much of what is disclosed is public knowledge. Especially if one pays attention in C-Span and other such media.

I just think he exagerrated, and him going off saying that if he wanted to, he could look in to someone just like that was a blatant lie.

I really think it is necessary to figure out what is going on, but the guy did not do whistleblowing. He just sensationalized the story with mistruths that caused immediate outrage which only serves to make the situation muddy and more complicated than it should have been.

I don't agree with what the government is doing, but the problem is, what he said made it harder to figure out what they are doing to begin with. So, he did a disservice in that sense.

Only thing is, I don't know if he did more harm than good. I am still debating between the two.

I'm starting to wonder... [View all] Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 OP
I have mixed feelings about what he has done Xyzse Jun 2013 #1
False choices don't make for very good polls. JimDandy Jun 2013 #3
It all depends... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #4
Darn, I already guessed. JimDandy Jun 2013 #15
Thing is, he hasn't been completely reliable either. Xyzse Jun 2013 #24
That kind of down the middle response JimDandy Jun 2013 #48
You're probably right Xyzse Jun 2013 #55
Hello xyzse, nice to read you. Hope all is well. graham4anything Jun 2013 #6
Interesting... Xyzse Jun 2013 #21
Yeah, it's interesting. Shakespeare said it best Much Ado about nothing. graham4anything Jun 2013 #25
I just prefer to sit back and watch how things go. Xyzse Jun 2013 #35
I pretty much agree. HappyMe Jun 2013 #13
That is about it Xyzse Jun 2013 #28
There seems to be more speculation HappyMe Jun 2013 #33
That's why I mention that I can't tell what is going on. Xyzse Jun 2013 #37
That's just it. HappyMe Jun 2013 #38
That's why I call him Attention Grabber Xyzse Jun 2013 #39
Yup. While everyone is HappyMe Jun 2013 #43
Yes, I heard of those Xyzse Jun 2013 #46
And yet, here you are. JimDandy Jun 2013 #52
I'm mostly here because of the HappyMe Jun 2013 #53
This all reminds me of something we once discussed, long ago, in a galaxy far far away(from here) graham4anything Jun 2013 #40
Likewise Xyzse Jun 2013 #42
I have to agree. Not all of his facts have stood up to scrutiny, but who knows what else he MADem Jun 2013 #51
I don't know... I just feel like he's prolonging his exposure Xyzse Jun 2013 #57
We got us a push pollster here! JimDandy Jun 2013 #2
puhleeze marions ghost Jun 2013 #7
Push polls are useless and disingenuous JimDandy Jun 2013 #12
Polls on DU are useless marions ghost Jun 2013 #36
It's not the polls I take seriously JimDandy Jun 2013 #49
Then you might as well object to all of DU marions ghost Jun 2013 #50
Maybe he is a masochist for torture. ErikJ Jun 2013 #5
There is no evidence he was an attention whore previously. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #8
Exactly, to everthing! JimDandy Jun 2013 #20
I chose "patriot" just to piss-off the defenders of the snooping. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9
What did he reveal? When there is something no one knew, let me know.(let alone something illegal) graham4anything Jun 2013 #27
Well, there must be something there to cause Obama, et al, to be issuing CYA statements. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #31
just an aside, what if the admin is paying this guy to rope-a-dope the BushPaulFamilyInc? graham4anything Jun 2013 #34
Personally, I think... RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #10
DUzy! HappyMe Jun 2013 #16
I want to hear who is footing his travels/expenses, as I think there is much more to this story. Frustratedlady Jun 2013 #11
Good point. HappyMe Jun 2013 #17
There is lots more to this story JimDandy Jun 2013 #30
Pass Flashmann Jun 2013 #14
I'm with you... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #19
Remember, Cheney put down W too in the last year of the reign of Bush...unless of course... graham4anything Jun 2013 #29
Both Patriot and Whore. Primarily patriot. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #18
How about an... 99Forever Jun 2013 #22
I cannot tell what's going on in that guy's brain. longship Jun 2013 #23
Or perhaps a patriotic attention whore. Or something else. But then he's not the point. Scuba Jun 2013 #26
And that has to do with the massive NSA spying that is going on how? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #32
fact check- the NRA is culling, not doing what you say. Words have meaning. imho graham4anything Jun 2013 #41
Don't insult my intelligence Savannahmann Jun 2013 #44
So how is this leaker different than the one who leaked the info on Valerie Plame? graham4anything Jun 2013 #47
Graham you are not nearly as good as you think you are Savannahmann Jun 2013 #59
Here is an analogy so good, it should be it's own original post in a new thread. graham4anything Jun 2013 #61
pretend you are frum. pansypoo53219 Jun 2013 #45
Dumb and narcissistic is no way to go through life, son Kolesar Jun 2013 #54
OMG HE'S A KARDASHIAN!!!!!!!! marions ghost Jun 2013 #56
A tap dancer flamingdem Jun 2013 #58
What's he gonna do when he finds out that Hong Kong is not a libertarian paradise? LeftInTX Jun 2013 #60
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