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Recursion

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Fri May 31, 2013, 07:49 AM May 2013

I'm a stay at home husband, or as I call it, a "kept man"... [View all]

A few threads about female breadwinners have gotten me thinking about this, and I wanted to put in my two cents on their own terms.

Thought 1: most men in my situation do not do housework, and expect their wives to. This is probably the biggest problem. And I'll say on the men's part, it may not even be "sexism" in the usual sense; more the fact that men, in general, are more willing to put up with filth than women are. Ask yourself what an average bachelor's apartment looks like, for instance. Here, I'm lucky: I was in the Marine Corps for a decade. I don't mop; I scrub. On my knees, with a sponge. Because I will not live in a house of filth. Also, I don't just know how to cook, I love doing it (that was my first job in the Marine Corps, in fact, and I chose it deliberately). She occasionally has some secret Bengali recipe she wants to cook, but I love just making stock every few days and cooking some meat and veggies with it.

Thought 2: we do not have children, but inshallah, we will. We have had the talks about this (see thought 3) and I am not just willing but very eager to be the primary caregiver and educator. We live in an admittedly unusual situation in which she is a diplomat posted to countries where I as a trailing spouse can often not get a work permit. But I love children and I love teaching and I really do know I'll be great at that.

Thought 3: we have, since about our 4th date when we realized we were serious about one another, talked about this issue without mincing any words. I have some stuff I can do (programming, sysadmining, copy-editing, writing) that can be done wherever we are, and that's essentially just my slush fund (which ends up being gifts for her anyways). She pays for dinner, when we're out, and she pays the cell phone bill (you as taxpayers pay the rent; thank you). I can't stress how crucial this is: actually talk to your partner about issues, and that includes money and spending.

To recap: I am a male from the southern US and a veteran of the Marine Corps; I fully understand societal expectations of manhood. But I have to say, with mutual communication there is absolutely no reason a man cannot be the partner who is not the breadwinner. I'm working on my novel, I'm learning pastels, and I clean the house to a high ****ing sheen that, frankly, my spouse can't quite get (she was never a Marine, God love her).

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Sounds like the kind of life I would love... sibelian May 2013 #1
I definitely consider housework torture. Lucky Luciano May 2013 #28
Thanks for your perspective. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #2
It's a "many" thing, I grant Recursion May 2013 #5
23 yrs Navy Sea Bee 4Q2u2 May 2013 #14
My wife is also a total slob fitman May 2013 #36
Reminds me of this from Jane Austen's Emma: treestar May 2013 #13
Damn, I need to find and marry a man like you! Loved this post! Kicked!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #3
That's sweet, but don't try to replicate this. You have the right solution for you, out there Recursion May 2013 #6
What a great read and insightful piece. Thank you. n/t reflection May 2013 #4
Not only are men willing to put up with more "filth", they are willing to wear the same underwear kelliekat44 May 2013 #7
OK, I'll come clean: even I do that Recursion May 2013 #8
ok. I'll give you that. kelliekat44 May 2013 #9
Nice stereo type MattBaggins May 2013 #23
Look--there's a reason underwear has two sides. msanthrope May 2013 #37
I'm home a lot myself. Inkfreak May 2013 #10
What a great Mom ! marions ghost May 2013 #17
Sounds like a fine life to me. If you're both happy... Triana May 2013 #11
Mr. Dixie was a house husband for many years dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #12
Ha! My husband is the same way ellie May 2013 #15
My wife runs me out of the kitchen madokie May 2013 #16
Division of labor along skill lines marions ghost May 2013 #19
I run my husband out of the kitchen too... a la izquierda May 2013 #35
I think there are men out there that are house husbands NewJeffCT May 2013 #18
Huzzah and Semper Fi JaneFordA May 2013 #20
You sound like a gem. Jennicut May 2013 #21
I would not call you kept, you are a partner... Phentex May 2013 #22
I absolutely promise not to try to replicate that! DFW May 2013 #24
I think that's awesome! hamsterjill May 2013 #25
Great post.. My son spent 5 years in the Navy and became a neat freak.. mountain grammy May 2013 #26
What a treasure of a human being and man you are. Unfortunately one in a million. northoftheborder May 2013 #27
My father did all the cleaning, my mom did all the cooking, my brother and I did laundry xtraxritical May 2013 #29
well there's no need to be nasty. I'm sure he is simply commenting on the comments liberal_at_heart May 2013 #34
This post is in part a response to this thread: Arugula Latte May 2013 #39
"Desperate to get your name on a post?" DU Courtesy Fail. IdaBriggs May 2013 #40
Are you kidding? Are you new here? xtraxritical May 2013 #42
Well, I've been here 10 years longer than you have, and I agree with every word of Ida's post. 11 Bravo May 2013 #45
Don't fuck with Ida. DCKit Jun 2013 #51
not all of us fit the stereotype. liberal_at_heart May 2013 #30
I too struggle with cleaning Skittles May 2013 #47
i have always let my wife/gf pay the bills galileoreloaded May 2013 #31
You have a wife and a girlfriend paying the bills? IdaBriggs May 2013 #41
was married, now w girlfriend galileoreloaded May 2013 #43
that was kpete May 2013 #32
I think your great and it's to bad you don't have children yet. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #33
You make me want to be a better person. DCKit Jun 2013 #52
While never in the military, like you I SCRUB the house rl6214 May 2013 #38
She has some secret Benghazi recipe? ashling May 2013 #44
you want I should kick your kept ass, Recursion? Skittles May 2013 #46
You are obviously manly enough to man-up and pull your weight in your marriage, indepat May 2013 #48
wonderful post Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #49
You are the stay at home partner, not the "kept man" tavalon May 2013 #50
I am not a stay at home dad ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #53
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