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In reply to the discussion: Why Hasn't The American Left Convinced More Americans To Vote For More Progressive Candidates? [View all]Number23
(24,544 posts)And your response is typical of the "if we just criticize EVERYTHING, everyone will want to listen to us!1!!one" mindset alot of people on this site unfortunately possess.
You whine (incessantly, I might add) about how liberals are not listened to. The entire point of this OP was to try to find reasons why that is. Instead of turning a critical eye to how liberals present themselves and their ideals, you AS USUAL want to whine about corporations and "corporatists."
That doesn't explain why Americans a) gravitate almost naturally towards liberal ideals but yet b) really dislike most liberals. Hell, for all we know this inability to connect with average Americans may be one of the primary reasons for the rise of corporatism and conservatism in the first place. Perhaps if people had something better to cling to, an actual liberal party that gets out there and does the work, that raises their voices loud for reasons other than tearing down the Dem party and doesn't talk down to average Americans as if everyone is stupid (while at the same time displaying some ASTOUNDING levels of misinformation and downright stupidity themselves). That is practical and effective, and far more interested in things than being ever so "disappointed" in everything and everyone. If there was a liberal party that did this, there would be a HELL of alot more people in this country happy to hang their hats on the liberal mantle in this country.
Because for alot (no where near all but enough) of you, displaying your liberal cred means doing nothing more than explaining ad nauseum, how xyz Democrat doesn't come NEARLY close enough to your lofty and mostly laughable ideals of what a liberal should be. Calling everyone a "corporatist" and the ever so clever and mature "Turd Way" does not a political movement make. That may be enough for the "more liberal than thou crowd", but the rest of us are looking for a hell of a lot more.