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BainsBane

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25. Perhaps

Reply to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 03:20 AM

Apr 2013

But there are many women who discount others's feelings as well.

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I knew - KNEW - the guilt trolls would show up before long. [View all] GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 OP

Good rant. I agree. defacto7 Apr 2013 #1

good rant kardonb Apr 2013 #75

... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #82

You totally missed the point. vduhr Apr 2013 #94

What they really mean is that Middle Eastern lives cartach Apr 2013 #109

drones don't usually explode icarusxat Apr 2013 #134

Well said. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #2

I see what you did here. cliffordu Apr 2013 #3

Excellent rant. Someone has to say it. Hekate Apr 2013 #4

A lot of DUers, the majority I believe, have the capacity to Jamastiene Apr 2013 #5

911 led to Iraq, totally unconnected, and on to the present day. delrem Apr 2013 #6

So far all I get out of dad PatrynXX Apr 2013 #7

Mention to him at the height of the time Bush was claiming we were in a fight for our way of life,.. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #20

There were lots of fake trials during the Bush years. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2013 #58

Members of Congress often are former attorneys.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #65

Agreed. Thanks for expressing it so well. Leaves many of us speechless, as intended. freshwest Apr 2013 #8

And they are dumbasses. I can't stand them doing their thing about things in one's personal life, raccoon Apr 2013 #45

In the background of it is the assumption that the people in Boston 'deserved' this. Without any freshwest Apr 2013 #66

What gets me are the ones you meet in total TERROR,... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #9

+1 freshwest Apr 2013 #62

+1 valerief Apr 2013 #73

Nice rant. Nonsense, but a nice rant none the less Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #10

Good? DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #18

Reread the sentence you are criticizing. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #38

Wallowing in self righteousness leftynyc Apr 2013 #36

Get off your high horse. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #39

He's not saying the horrifying event is good whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #49

That's untrue Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #46

+1! (nt) reACTIONary Apr 2013 #130

"then good"???? Leveraging TERROR to gain support for some OPINION is called.... yodermon Apr 2013 #53

thank you DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #100

thank you, yodermon. "fucking rhetoric" indeed. n/m Cha Apr 2013 #126

I am an American. So I AM personally affected by this. hamsterjill Apr 2013 #80

Good answer daybranch Apr 2013 #132

Thank you. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #133

I think they're telling you to be consistent, not that LittleBlue Apr 2013 #11

I agree with you. good post. nt boilerbabe Apr 2013 #13

Boston is a little closer to home than Pakistan... cynatnite Apr 2013 #15

But there is sense in challenging them LittleBlue Apr 2013 #17

It's the presumption that because someone expresses horror at something awful... cynatnite Apr 2013 #24

I don't LittleBlue Apr 2013 #26

You have no idea of what I have or haven't seen of America... cynatnite Apr 2013 #32

For the next couple days I am worried about the people ten miles from me Marrah_G Apr 2013 #57

+1 Thank you. ChaoticTrilby Apr 2013 #139

How the heck do you know Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #47

Exactly. vduhr Apr 2013 #98

It's not racist that people are upset about Boston. This hits closer to home pnwmom Apr 2013 #19

And that would be fine if those Pakistani kids weren't killed by our drones LittleBlue Apr 2013 #27

Very well said! nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #41

We are at least in theory defending ourselves from terrorism treestar Apr 2013 #43

And Pakistani Pashtuns are in theory fighting for their freedom Ash_F Apr 2013 #116

Why does that mean we can do nothing to defend ourselves from terrorism? treestar Apr 2013 #119

Ignorance is bliss right? Ash_F Apr 2013 #120

If you are going to bring up drones in Pakistan why not mention Sunni suicide snagglepuss Apr 2013 #81

Doesn't matter how many are killed? cartach Apr 2013 #101

Excuse me but where I have justified the use of drones? snagglepuss Apr 2013 #103

Yes, but WE are killing the people with drones dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #28

Speak for yourself. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #67

+1 riqster Apr 2013 #69

Sorry, that's how it works dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #78

So they get to lump us all together and kill random people Progressive dog Apr 2013 #87

Sounds like a mischaracterization to me dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #95

If you repeat what you said, I didn't mischaracterize it Progressive dog Apr 2013 #97

??? that makes no sense dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #112

You said "If we're not accountable for the actions of our elected reps, who is?" Progressive dog Apr 2013 #115

WTF? dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #117

You said "I made no such defense." so must be someone else using your name nt Progressive dog Apr 2013 #118

I thing you are ignoring a big difference between what happened in Boston and Pakistan. pennylane100 Apr 2013 #33

+10000000 Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #122

I think they should look in the mirror, if that's the case. joshcryer Apr 2013 #23

It has nothing to do pipi_k Apr 2013 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author npk Apr 2013 #84

Being "consistent" doesn't require also mentioning every similar incident. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #105

Beautifully stated! Wind Dancer Apr 2013 #12

It's invalidation BainsBane Apr 2013 #14

If a woman walks into a room full of women and says, "I just had a car accident"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #22

Perhaps BainsBane Apr 2013 #25

Let's not talk about Babs Bush.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #29

This. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #61

Kick and Rec! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #16

The OP is perhaps attacking a strawman? Ash_F Apr 2013 #21

Maybe not "dastardly motivations"... AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #37

"Cancels out" <-- That's what I mean Ash_F Apr 2013 #92

Others may not understand you, Ash. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #123

Its the Queen for a Day Mentality LarryNM Apr 2013 #30

Agree and THANKS for posting this. nt Raine Apr 2013 #31

Excellent, K&R, thank you etherealtruth Apr 2013 #34

Excellent rant leftynyc Apr 2013 #35

If I or others expressed sadness or anger over OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #40

Right on! ananda Apr 2013 #42

Damn well said... SidDithers Apr 2013 #44

See above, they did so. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #52

... and see below. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #63

Thank you. I hate those kind of posts. distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #48

One big strawman cpwm17 Apr 2013 #50

Yep. Iggo Apr 2013 #64

Your response is a straw man. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #68

How does it minimize grief in any way cpwm17 Apr 2013 #86

Your assumption that those that bring up Pakistan drones LiberalLovinLug Apr 2013 #91

+1,000,000 cpwm17 Apr 2013 #96

Thank you for saying an inconvenient truth. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #125

+1000 CrawlingChaos Apr 2013 #93

Well said. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #124

Well they look different and speak funny. zeemike Apr 2013 #128

Couldn't disagree more. No one gives a shit about Afganistan, but for a few weeks people Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #51

"No one gives a shit about Afganistan" Occulus Apr 2013 #85

I've talked to people who think it's already over. Perhaps you live in a liberal bubble Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #102

This is my City Marrah_G Apr 2013 #54

Dislike. Myrina Apr 2013 #55

Agreed. Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #56

And yet after 9/11 many liberals were quick to bring up the impact of policies The Straight Story Apr 2013 #59

mentioning the other isn't meant to cancel out our pain, just use it as a chance to teach empathy yurbud Apr 2013 #60

Well one thing about this post. aandegoons Apr 2013 #70

Straw man. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #72

Yet not one of those post you hate said any of that. aandegoons Apr 2013 #76

Excellent point just1voice Apr 2013 #113

No one mentioned that guilt trolls are implying that what happened in Boston hedgehog Apr 2013 #71

Agreed. egduj Apr 2013 #74

i think you should have more repeated words in bold print. one just wasnt enuff leftyohiolib Apr 2013 #77

Completely disagree. 'Distance tends to sanitize and desensitize' Hissyspit Apr 2013 #79

Completely agree with the fuckers that use the Boston tragedy Sheepshank Apr 2013 #88

What a complete load of garbage! CrawlingChaos Apr 2013 #89

+1 just1voice Apr 2013 #111

K&R ReRe Apr 2013 #90

WhatI hate are the "we deserve it" posts "because our drones do it every day to other people." Bake Apr 2013 #99

How about "what goes around comes around" or cartach Apr 2013 #104

I'm not real keen on those either. Bake Apr 2013 #110

Who says "we deserve it"? delrem Apr 2013 #137

A lot of people in the world hate America-- marions ghost Apr 2013 #106

I grasp your point but disagree... jimlup Apr 2013 #107

moral yardsticks undergroundpanther Apr 2013 #108

Troll Thread Irony Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #114

False equivalencies can be such a beautiful argument and they work well, Coyotl Apr 2013 #121

+ 1000000...some of us have empathy enough for every heartbreak. n/t ms liberty Apr 2013 #127

Nevermind Betsy Ross Apr 2013 #129

I certainly do not feel any guilt over the killing of innocent children in Pakistan. pennylane100 Apr 2013 #131

Bravo. n/t ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2013 #135

The real irony Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #136

It's because a lot of conversations are people just expressing their associative thoughts gtar100 Apr 2013 #138