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Cleita

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66. Good. Utilities should be managed and run by municipalities and counties.

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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:04 PM

Apr 2013

They should be non-profit because they are a necessity for everyone, not just those who can afford them. I have had both, and the best run ones were the government run ones for electricity and a telephone cooperative.

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Solar panels could destroy U.S. utilities, according to U.S. utilities [View all] green for victory Apr 2013 OP

Bummer.. pipoman Apr 2013 #1

Yeah, I was suddenly overcome by a wave of depression on reading that. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #52

Ten reasons solar energy is all wrong: wellspring Apr 2013 #73

*snort* krispos42 Apr 2013 #74

As a brand new investor in 24 solar panels on our roof , selling sunshine back to SCE.. pkdu Apr 2013 #82

Yep..... That's what the oil giants want us to think..... midnight Apr 2013 #84

well played n/t w0nderer Apr 2013 #85

Love it! Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #96

+1000. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #99

Beautiful... GTurck Apr 2013 #103

K&R And only a couple of decades too late. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #2

Corporate forces, forever standing in the way of progress. marmar Apr 2013 #3

They will be responsible for their own demise if they ignore solar energy. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #4

We need them to be more responsible nolabels Apr 2013 #30

No, we don't need any corporations. fasttense Apr 2013 #47

We throw our money away bailing out the banks and feeding the Pentagon/CIA/DHS. leveymg Apr 2013 #5

+ a few billion green for victory Apr 2013 #6

Socialist! pscot Apr 2013 #39

And giving obscenely rich ppl MORE tax breaks and tax havens. nt valerief Apr 2013 #44

About the first thing Raygun did upon occupying the WH was to remove Carter's solar panels on the byeya Apr 2013 #7

and soon after, he abolished the Fed tax credits started by Carter green for victory Apr 2013 #10

Thanks for the reminder! byeya Apr 2013 #37

First thing Cheney did at the Veep's residence was undo Al Gore's work Hekate Apr 2013 #64

Why don't utility companies invest in Solar then? perdita9 Apr 2013 #8

Exactly... I find it odd that if they think solar will win, why aren't they investing in it? octothorpe Apr 2013 #48

All of the major energy companies are controlled by a common financial royalty. AdHocSolver Apr 2013 #58

Thanks for sharing this information. I wish someone would do a graphic to make it easy to share. BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #68

They are. Callmecrazy Apr 2013 #61

I'll bet they're all getting into water now. lexw Apr 2013 #101

Bookmarked..... daleanime Apr 2013 #9

K&R abelenkpe Apr 2013 #11

imagine the power of a Wiki-Solar project- everyone that wants contributes green for victory Apr 2013 #19

People in northern Maine have solar panels on their houses. MADem Apr 2013 #94

we people here at DU that have solar panels ThomThom Apr 2013 #75

If photovoltaics are feasible in Germany it is feasible in most of the U.S. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #12

It might work here but we would definetlyneed diversity. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #25

Woo hoo! primavera Apr 2013 #13

They say that like it's a bad thing ... Myrina Apr 2013 #14

For them, it is. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #17

Long overdue. Zorra Apr 2013 #15

heh. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #16

I guess we should prepare for the rise of the mandated solar insurance industry, then. bluedigger Apr 2013 #18

ouch. hope this guy isn't listening green for victory Apr 2013 #21

I always assumed... onyourleft Apr 2013 #20

It won't happen soon enough. blackspade Apr 2013 #22

I could be wrong watoos Apr 2013 #27

Creating markets, as Jamie Dimon would put it. reteachinwi Apr 2013 #36

There's plenty of solar companies (especially here in So. Cal.) that will do it for no money down. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #42

Cool, Thanks! blackspade Apr 2013 #53

we are so behind in this marions ghost Apr 2013 #23

we could start turning the battleship today green for victory Apr 2013 #24

corruptisma marions ghost Apr 2013 #32

Smart power companies should be, right now, doing the following. Ready4Change Apr 2013 #26

Why not here? kyeshinka Apr 2013 #28

Yeah, and... DirtyDawg Apr 2013 #29

So? Dinosaurs went extinct too. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #31

Google Earth the place and it doesn't have a solar park there OnlinePoker Apr 2013 #33

Just happen to have a screen shot green for victory Apr 2013 #40

I am not surprised but happy to note the Democrats has been in the right side of alternative Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #34

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #35

Let's see if I can find a shred of empathy or concern for the utilities... AndyA Apr 2013 #38

I have panels. My bill last month: -$5.00. nt Javaman Apr 2013 #41

How much did they cost you to install those? octothorpe Apr 2013 #49

Yeah, I'm in Austin. Javaman Apr 2013 #51

That's great - but you'd be fucked if the utilities went away, wouldn't you? wtmusic Apr 2013 #80

I know you are mr. nuke around here so I won't even qualify your Javaman Apr 2013 #83

You can't. wtmusic Apr 2013 #86

You enjoy picking fights don't you? Javaman Apr 2013 #87

No fight. wtmusic Apr 2013 #88

Yeah, you do, you just wait for people like myself to speak about solar power Javaman Apr 2013 #89

Responding with ad hominems seems like a glaring admission wtmusic Apr 2013 #91

I don't remember where I got this link. This link might have a bearing on this question. RickFromMN Apr 2013 #102

Kind of hard to evaluate 28 billion different combinations, isn't it? wtmusic Apr 2013 #107

Forgive me for being slow. I am trying to understand. RickFromMN Apr 2013 #111

Strictly speaking the demand curve is reflects whatever load is placed on the grid wtmusic Apr 2013 #113

Thank you for this link. This is fascinating. RickFromMN Apr 2013 #116

I'm going to point you to a website (one of my new favorites) wtmusic Apr 2013 #117

You enjoy reading a lot into peoples posts with zero information. Javaman Apr 2013 #104

And you enjoy telling me what I enjoy. wtmusic Apr 2013 #109

End scene. nt Javaman Apr 2013 #110

There are various ways of storing heat green for victory Apr 2013 #93

A good point. wtmusic Apr 2013 #108

What's really inexplicable is that the utility companies SheilaT Apr 2013 #43

I really really don't want to see the utility companies owning "solar rights". djean111 Apr 2013 #45

Is this a joke? n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #54

I'm not joking, although I'm being somewhat ironic. SheilaT Apr 2013 #55

Ah, got it. Another westerner here, I know exactly what you're saying. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #59

It's true==As the song says: "Nothing is Your Own" nikto Apr 2013 #115

Capitalism 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #46

Solar farming in Iowa Skidmore Apr 2013 #50

Hearing this makes me much more resilience Hutzpa Apr 2013 #56

Panels aren't visible on Google Maps? BadgerKid Apr 2013 #57

That's sort of the point, yes. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #60

First reaction: My heart bleeds for them Hekate Apr 2013 #62

We could only wish. ileus Apr 2013 #63

In the words of Exxon's CEO: silverweb Apr 2013 #65

Good. Utilities should be managed and run by municipalities and counties. Cleita Apr 2013 #66

Let's do it and revitalize the US Power Grid nt MrScorpio Apr 2013 #67

We may have destroy the utility companies to GET the solar panels. DirkGently Apr 2013 #69

Utility company could change their business model csziggy Apr 2013 #70

YAY! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #71

Solar's great! StoneCarver Apr 2013 #72

that's called competition in a capitalistic market fascisthunter Apr 2013 #76

Someone still has to transmit power though, right? eridani Apr 2013 #77

Germany has managed to figure it out. If we can't, maybe we could hire a few Germans green for victory Apr 2013 #95

"we could hire a few Germans": We've done it before. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #112

I am kind of bothered by the solar farm concept FrodosPet Apr 2013 #78

Take a look at Palo Verde Nuclear plant in Arizona green for victory Apr 2013 #97

I wasn't advocating for more nuclear plants FrodosPet Apr 2013 #100

But for the lack of will of the people... cbrer Apr 2013 #79

Well, they should have come up with a different EC Apr 2013 #81

A positive paradigm shift... Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #90

Doing my teency little part with my Goal Zero solar charger. AllyCat Apr 2013 #92

I have to be honest with everyone here... nikto Apr 2013 #98

start smart daybranch Apr 2013 #105

Wow... what a shame that would be Recursion Apr 2013 #106

Wait, is Grist satire? sakabatou Apr 2013 #114