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JoeBlowToo

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39. There is no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in such public settings...

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 02:05 PM

Apr 2013

The general rule is that people in public places must assume they might be photographed or recorded, particularly if they are officials carrying out their public duties. Therefore, you may photograph, film and record what you can easily see or hear in public places, even if the recorded people have not specifically consented to such, provided you do not harass, trespass or otherwise intrude. This includes shooting footage of a private property from a public sidewalk, as long as you do not engage in overzealous surveillance, such as the offensive use, for example, of a telephoto lens to record intimate activities inside the bedroom or bathroom of a private residence.
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McConnell's office was not bugged, it was recorded after an open meeting. [View all] alfredo Apr 2013 OP

I read it was a Republican group notadmblnd Apr 2013 #1

The KDP is suspicious of Progress Kentucky. They kind of came from nowhere. alfredo Apr 2013 #2

I see. Thanks. notadmblnd Apr 2013 #3

Is Progress Kentucky the organization that ran the ads about Turtle's Asian wife? n/t sweetloukillbot Apr 2013 #60

Yes. When the axe came to the forest, the trees said the handle was one of us. alfredo Apr 2013 #63

they won't get in trouble will they d_r Apr 2013 #4

Not sure. He wasn't in the room, but in the hall. alfredo Apr 2013 #6

Or They Would Have Security DallasNE Apr 2013 #17

The door was closed and locked. premium Apr 2013 #19

See reply 10. alfredo Apr 2013 #22

That's why I said they could be in trouble. premium Apr 2013 #26

But if it is an overheard conversation that could be heard through a vent or door alfredo Apr 2013 #34

Right. premium Apr 2013 #37

so if I hear my neighbors having sex above me.... PatrynXX Apr 2013 #49

Depends on the neighbors. alfredo Apr 2013 #50

Hey. If you record the noise, it probably wouldn't be illegal. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #57

McConnel should now reimburse for the charges for FBI to investigate for after all he wants to cut Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #5

The damage has been done. alfredo Apr 2013 #7

True the damage might have been done but there is a cost of FBI investigators and McConnel needs Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #8

I'm more interested in if they find wrong doing by McConnell. alfredo Apr 2013 #9

McConnell needs the money for his defense fund. Legal or not, the tapes are of his crime. Coyotl Apr 2013 #21

The staffers were there for a public meeting, and official act. The recording was after the alfredo Apr 2013 #25

Doing political opposition research while working for the U.S. Senate violates the Hatch Act Coyotl Apr 2013 #29

Unfortunately, McConnell's campaign chest No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #27

True, but Mitch's numbers are dismal. alfredo Apr 2013 #46

I'm not sure it is illegal to tape something in order to find evidence JDPriestly Apr 2013 #45

I think over at Salon, a poster claimed if you are present, you can record Babel_17 Apr 2013 #10

Probably not illegal if it was recorded from out in the hall even if the door was closed onenote Apr 2013 #12

"Through the heating system" I like that a lot. n/t GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #30

Thanks! So, as long as the device wasn't being used as a shotgun microphone ... Babel_17 Apr 2013 #36

That's Legislative Research Commission Commentary. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #47

Possibly. I'm not familiar with how the KY courts treat such commentary. onenote Apr 2013 #48

Possible, but not probable WolverineDG Apr 2013 #66

McConnell should be arrested. Conium Apr 2013 #11

The use of the word in quotes is offensive to many csziggy Apr 2013 #38

Did the person making the recording have a right to be in the hall? Probably from what I've read. byeya Apr 2013 #13

I'm shocked that McConnell and his group were not quieter and JDPriestly Apr 2013 #58

Funny how the whole drama is about Progress Kentucky and how "bad" they are... SoapBox Apr 2013 #14

Thank you! That's why the turtle called the FBI--distraction. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #15

McConnell using staff to work his campaign???? Very illegal...tape proves guilt as well as low attack The Wielding Truth Apr 2013 #20

What Progress Kentucky did is stupid if proven to be true. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #53

Does that mean you are allowed to tape any conversation made in public? dkf Apr 2013 #16

thats a good question olddots Apr 2013 #18

It's part of 21st century world No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #28

I guess this is what makes the google glasses possible. dkf Apr 2013 #43

and film too! Coyotl Apr 2013 #23

I do some street photography and I can photograph anyone in public for non commercial use. alfredo Apr 2013 #24

This was private, not public. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #31

The hallway is private ? Larrylarry Apr 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #33

Yes. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #35

They were in a public hallway... Larrylarry Apr 2013 #42

There is no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in such public settings... JoeBlowToo Apr 2013 #39

Correct data, incorrect interpretation cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #40

Depends on how loud you are, I should think. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #59

Yes, the grassy knoll GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #67

Since the govt can put up video cams to keep an eye on people. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #44

I doubt anyone can have an expectation of privacy in a park or even a restaurant dlwickham Apr 2013 #52

I might not expect privacy but I also don't expect to be taped. dkf Apr 2013 #61

I'd say no dlwickham Apr 2013 #65

Hey, Mitch--if you don't want it recorded.... lastlib Apr 2013 #41

If this was a Republican Mnpaul Apr 2013 #51

You are engaging in excuse making. Progress Kentucky fucked up if they made the recording. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #54

This is the second big screwup by them. Are the really a progressive group, or are alfredo Apr 2013 #55

I'm not excusing anything Mnpaul Apr 2013 #56

Say, bluestate10, what do you make of this? KansDem Apr 2013 #62

Woah... Raine1967 Apr 2013 #64