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22. I think we need to just vote for ACTUAL DEMOCRATS and not "Third Way" DLCers

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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:47 PM

Apr 2013

Third party is nowheresville.

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Voting third party is irredeemably hopeless. [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

And so long as people repeat theKed Apr 2013 #1

Exactly. 99Forever Apr 2013 #17

They keep repeating it because it is true. drm604 Apr 2013 #44

...and so long as no third party actually organizes to get candidates elected... brooklynite Apr 2013 #55

Entirely true. However... Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #69

Yes! MineralMan Apr 2013 #2

well it is if that party can't achieve a majority HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #3

I dunno about you guys, but I vote for people, not parties. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #4

To say that you vote for Democrats because they are 'better than Republicans' is kind of like saying sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #41

What happened to your much-vaunted democracy?? PDJane Apr 2013 #5

what are you talking about? cali Apr 2013 #8

You aren't living within a true democracy. You are a nascent police state. PDJane Apr 2013 #9

I live in Vermont. Do you? Sorry, but my dem politicians here, both in Congress and cali Apr 2013 #71

Hey DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #63

We are. However, if there is a spill where our favourite neo-con wants to put it, PDJane Apr 2013 #91

Je ne voulais pas de se réjouir/ I did not mean to gloat DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #93

one of the people who gloated wasn't me; my son was supposed to have been there, in the towers. PDJane Apr 2013 #95

The "don't vote" / "vote third party" thing is probably about the most dangerous anti-Democrat meme Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #6

Agreed. and there is a lot of it happening here. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #7

It certainly is... Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #38

Repukes don't need to finance it. Our president is doing quite a good job pushing that idea. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #11

Listen to yourself, "anti-Democrat", with a capital D. MadHound Apr 2013 #35

Bullshit and revisionist history as well. cali Apr 2013 #72

Well, if YOU say so, MadHound Apr 2013 #84

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #87

This Is The Time To Double Down...Not Run... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #10

The agenda needs to be centered on Economic Issues and... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #14

Totally. Except for the other guys! calimary Apr 2013 #12

the best choice is to completely change the Democratic Party... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #13

"it took them 50 years. ... it requires a lot of grass-roots organizing" redqueen Apr 2013 #15

You should have voted for John V Lindsay-he got more votes than McG in the primaries he was in graham4anything Apr 2013 #19

Hey, I voted for Jesse in that primary!! I remember. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #67

I voted for Jesse twice, Jerry twice, Al Sharpton once, and as for 1980 graham4anything Apr 2013 #78

Our so called 'two party' system, true to its name, locks out all others. trof Apr 2013 #16

+ infinity Phlem Apr 2013 #46

I'm not sure that a parliamentary system would be any better Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #60

we know it is not DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #64

I remember when Brian Mulroney was prime minister Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #97

I guess when the uncut Tea dominates then some more will wake up or it all goes straight to hell TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #18

So is voting Democrat or Republican, so do what you want Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #20

+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #39

reactionary moneyed interest simply have progressives over the barrell and they know it Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #21

I think we need to just vote for ACTUAL DEMOCRATS and not "Third Way" DLCers ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2013 #22

Yes but the Third Way creeps will do their best to keep Actual Democrats from running dflprincess Apr 2013 #29

Vote for as many as you want...as long as they can WIN in their District. brooklynite Apr 2013 #57

There are people who vote based on personal conviction regardless of the odds LanternWaste Apr 2013 #23

What's to keep the "progressive caucus" of the Democratic Party to get their asses in gear ... Scuba Apr 2013 #24

That's why I'll always be a loyal member of the Free Soil Party. winter is coming Apr 2013 #25

Disinformation Trailrider1951 Apr 2013 #26

it's only hopeless if people refuse to vote their best interests... mike_c Apr 2013 #27

we need to remember that most of the public doesn't know about this whole "third way dem" business Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #28

Republicans and Democrats are two halves of the Money Party. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #30

Not anymore than being gerrymandered. mmonk Apr 2013 #31

Voting Third Way is irredeemably hopeless. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #32

it's irredeemably HOPEless and CHANGEless frylock Apr 2013 #33

If there is a third party liberal running for congress or local and that person LeftInTX Apr 2013 #34

Thinking of voting third party? Just think of what will happen if everyone thinks that way. freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #36

but everyone doesn't. practically no one does and our system cali Apr 2013 #74

No, everyone does not. freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #79

it took the conditions of being on the brink of dissolution of the United States of America in order Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #77

I'm not sure it can work anytime soon. freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #80

I see no prospect at this time. But then again - conditions change - If it should become plausible Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #83

I don't think the Republican Party was ever a 3rd Party Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #100

Ya better donnasgirl Apr 2013 #37

Maybe not "no difference". I'd say INSUFFICIENT difference. MNBrewer Apr 2013 #40

We need to take back our party MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #42

So it seems is voting for the dems on point Apr 2013 #43

Make the Democratic Party the liberal party. drm604 Apr 2013 #45

There is already donnasgirl Apr 2013 #48

No there is not. brooklynite Apr 2013 #58

wrong. there is NO independent party. cali Apr 2013 #75

On the Republican side of things, Ron Paul's supporters tried that. truedelphi Apr 2013 #51

People got arrested for running for local Democratic committee person? drm604 Apr 2013 #68

You were not able to logically process a simple post I made. truedelphi Apr 2013 #94

I processed it fine. drm604 Apr 2013 #96

Third parties need to start at the bottom. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #47

I disagree in principle. Bonobo Apr 2013 #49

what if... Whisp Apr 2013 #50

That's what the Whigs said. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #52

as you state, there is a "3rd party" jazzimov Apr 2013 #53

There is no such thing as a liberal global corporatist TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #59

Thank you. woo me with science Apr 2013 #89

Indeed. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #99

Please encourage all conservatives to vote third party. Loudly Apr 2013 #54

If it is someone that has not lost their brain to foxnews Rex Apr 2013 #61

Your efforts are to be commended. Loudly Apr 2013 #62

Until some group has the ability to give Rex Apr 2013 #56

It'll only be hopeless if people keep saying it's hopeless. Apophis Apr 2013 #65

This is what activism needs to change. cbrer Apr 2013 #66

servitude to your own self-destruction is also irredeemably hopeless. NuttyFluffers Apr 2013 #70

yeah, the dem party in Vermont is just so corporatist. cali Apr 2013 #76

''Voting third party is irredeemably hopeless.'' DeSwiss Apr 2013 #73

A 3rd party wont matter, they will be just as easily bought out as the other two. davidn3600 Apr 2013 #81

But why continue voting for politicians that want to cut Social Security? TransitJohn Apr 2013 #82

many think it sends "a message".. DCBob Apr 2013 #85

Vermont is not the only state with fusion voting eridani Apr 2013 #86

What in effing hell do people think that PRIMARIES are for? eridani Apr 2013 #88

And then there are primaries where national politicians Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #98

True, but voting one party is kind of hopeless too. Autumn Apr 2013 #90

I'm all for a viable 3rd party Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #92