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trumad

(41,692 posts) Wed Mar 13, 2013, 08:26 PM Mar 2013

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I am a Catholic, Baptized, First Communion, Confirmed, Altar-Boy... [View all]

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and a couple of years of Catholic School and Catechism.....

OK---those are my credentials.

I think--- I think this gives me the right to say what I want to say about the religion that I grew up with.

So here I go.

I think the Catholic Religion is one of the most offensive organizations that has ever existed.

The atrocities that this one single organization has committed throughout history surely has to be ranked in the top 5 of any out there or any that has ever existed.

Yeah I call it an organization--- hell I call it the Mafia on steroids.

I hate this celebration---I hate the ignorance of those who congradulate and celebrate this bigoted Son of a Bitch who stood by why freedom fighters of Argentina fought against dictatorship.

It is all a sham---possibly one of the most successful shams in all of history.

Amen!

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I am a Catholic, Baptized, First Communion, Confirmed, Altar-Boy... [View all] trumad Mar 2013 OP

Does the fact that Joe Biden is a practicing Roman Catholic reduce your respect for him? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #1

Simplistic reply to my OP. trumad Mar 2013 #2

This is the typical response from that poster here RainDog Mar 2013 #6

'Barbara Bush syndrome' amuse bouche Mar 2013 #28

Barbara Bush is not a Catholic. Joe Biden is. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #54

Surely you aren't that concrete minded RainDog Mar 2013 #57

This... Politicub Mar 2013 #59

Absolutely not. There are no rules here about slamming Joe Biden's religion, AFAIK. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #69

I think that was the point Bradical79 Mar 2013 #129

I'm loving your wit RainDog, good responses. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #140

Off topic lark Mar 2013 #157

Your simplistic reply made my day. I would love to have a beer with you!!! coldbeer Mar 2013 #142

Thanks for the tip. HuckleB Mar 2013 #71

So what are you really trying to say? Why dont you just say it instead of asking a question like rhett o rick Mar 2013 #92

And how about JFK? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #95

That's not even a complete question. How about him? Your questions are childish. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #114

I think a good number of politicians give religion the lip service it takes snooper2 Mar 2013 #145

Good one. strange7 Mar 2013 #179

Since you asked... TheAmbivalante Mar 2013 #94

The bigotry against cigar smokers here is simply shocking (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #97

I don't recall Joe Biden taking part in the Spanish Inquisition, or enabling the Holocaust,.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #100

Excellent point. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #104

So does the Catholic organization who either took an active role in those events, or.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #109

Organizational decisions are how you judge an organization. Bradical79 Mar 2013 #131

Does it occur to you that there's a difference between Catholics and the Catholic Church? lunatica Mar 2013 #122

if Catholics don't make up the Catholic Church ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #124

You missed my point lunatica Mar 2013 #126

i got your point ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #128

For the same reason one is an American Citizen lunatica Mar 2013 #130

false analogy ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #155

Yes. It makes me wonder how much of the rest of his brain is also wacko. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #137

How about Hitler? GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #146

and to follow up on the first post, what about John F. Kennedy? quinnox Mar 2013 #3

and to follow up on my second post... trumad Mar 2013 #12

It's amazing amuse bouche Mar 2013 #26

here's the key bobduca Mar 2013 #43

You have a point there amuse bouche Mar 2013 #58

Here's the corollary to your completely correct key, offered as a follw-up Occulus Mar 2013 #169

For that matter treestar Mar 2013 #82

Maybe you should review Kennedy's speech from Sept. 12, 1960. MsPithy Mar 2013 #49

Bravo! Bravo! n/t ReRe Mar 2013 #112

Agreed! Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #4

A billion people disagree with you. Zax2me Mar 2013 #5

And a half billion rebuke Mar 2013 #9

I guess we have a billion homophobes then? trumad Mar 2013 #14

The brush don't come much broader than that. zeemike Mar 2013 #91

well you are telling me that trumad Mar 2013 #98

I am not telling you anything zeemike Mar 2013 #105

hey you made the statement trumad Mar 2013 #119

I made no such statement. zeemike Mar 2013 #139

He's most likely still counted as a Catholic in that number, as am I, an atheist... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #51

Haha, never thought of that, that would include me also though Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #143

Red herring really is delicious! HuckleB Mar 2013 #72

and 6+ billion people agree with him. magical thyme Mar 2013 #120

Message auto-removed CentristLiberal Mar 2013 #175

Keep your faith in your heart rebuke Mar 2013 #7

^ What a great quote ^ Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #21

Another version amuse bouche Mar 2013 #22

If you meant Church instead of Religion REP Mar 2013 #8

Went to Catholic schools for 12 years and totally agree with you. forestpath Mar 2013 #10

same here SemperEadem Mar 2013 #45

Wide is the gulf Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #11

Good post. trumad Mar 2013 #15

yes it is bluemarkers Mar 2013 #63

I wonder if anyone is missing pintobean Mar 2013 #13

Yes I do. Thanks for asking amuse bouche Mar 2013 #29

Lol pintobean Mar 2013 #52

But of course amuse bouche Mar 2013 #56

I've never alerted on you. pintobean Mar 2013 #65

Who? GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #141

Yup. Iggo Mar 2013 #16

You are so very correct sir amuse bouche Mar 2013 #17

LOL trumad Mar 2013 #18

Ok then amuse bouche Mar 2013 #24

Kidding of course... trumad Mar 2013 #25

you want I should kick your non-caring ass, trumad? Skittles Mar 2013 #27

You say "I am a troll." But you can't be the real trumad. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #113

I was also raised strict Catholic truegrit44 Mar 2013 #19

Thank you. Can you JanMichael Mar 2013 #20

They protest and alert amuse bouche Mar 2013 #30

"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #23

Trumad, I have all your qualifications (except alter boy - no girls allowed) plus 12 years of s-cubed Mar 2013 #31

Honestly-- I loved going to church as a kid... trumad Mar 2013 #37

grew up in the Episcopal Church bluemarkers Mar 2013 #68

My history is very similar, as is my opinion. HuckleB Mar 2013 #32

I was an Episcopalian, first communion, confirmed RebelOne Mar 2013 #33

In the 50s, I was taught your kind would burn in the flames of Hell for eternity Submariner Mar 2013 #39

I disagree with you completely... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #34

Like I said--- Ity is my opinion... trumad Mar 2013 #38

Right - all Catholics are homophobes. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #41

well.. a billion celebrate the pope correct? trumad Mar 2013 #53

Okay...good luck with that. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #132

Then you celebrate a Homophobe. trumad Mar 2013 #133

No. I celebrate the election of Pope Francis. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #134

Thanks for the last word. trumad Mar 2013 #135

And Pope Francis is a big ol' homophobe. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #144

"So there you are..." NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #147

You support the guy. Own it. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #148

Yes, I support the guy. I own it. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #149

Thank you for supporting homophobia. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #150

I feel sorry for you. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #171

If you support the church you support what they stand for. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #170

Millions think Obama is a Muslim! Are they idiots or not? Logical Mar 2013 #106

What you said! valerief Mar 2013 #35

It has existed for a couple thousand years though treestar Mar 2013 #36

Oh I am sure its done some good... trumad Mar 2013 #40

Slavery is an even older institution RainDog Mar 2013 #44

The Church is a very large and complex institution with a long history treestar Mar 2013 #48

I was merely pointing out that an appeal to history RainDog Mar 2013 #50

Appeals to History, Appeals to Authority bobduca Mar 2013 #61

Huh? treestar Mar 2013 #79

when was it for radicals? RainDog Mar 2013 #81

Are you kidding? The pointy hats and Liberace robes? Now that's radical. :-P Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #84

Hello, when it started it was a cult like any other treestar Mar 2013 #85

so you're trying to claim that the Catholic church and the early Christians are the same thing? RainDog Mar 2013 #87

They would not have been entirely different people treestar Mar 2013 #89

More Jews were martyred in the revolt of 66-70 RainDog Mar 2013 #93

and just to be honest about history RainDog Mar 2013 #99

The Catholic Church brought about and perpetuated the Dark Ages, you are correct. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #182

What are you shitting me? The contemporary version is the mellow one. Their crimes are Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #62

Thank You amuse bouche Mar 2013 #66

As an institution the Church has had an atrocious record. I have been fortunate to encounter good Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #67

Agreed. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #70

I went to an all girls catholic school amuse bouche Mar 2013 #75

That's fucked up. I went to an all boys school in the late 80s in Puerto Rico. My mother Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #78

That has been my experience as well. BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #77

BTW: Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #74

The pearl clutchers amuse bouche Mar 2013 #76

I was either 1, 2, 3 or 4 in that one. Didn't feel like writing an explanation. 6-0 is pretty good Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #80

Thanks amuse bouche Mar 2013 #86

I fit that description too stupidicus Mar 2013 #42

mark your calendar... I actually agree with you for a change.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #46

R#38 & K n/t UTUSN Mar 2013 #47

Threatening the fear of death and afterlife seems to glowing Mar 2013 #55

Couldn't agree more! From another baptised Catholic>slated at one time by my parents for the nunnery hue Mar 2013 #60

Jesus, Mary and Joseph! BellaLuna Mar 2013 #64

Mother Teresa reputation "dubious:" Hissyspit Mar 2013 #73

Oh noes amuse bouche Mar 2013 #83

"From the beginning, not a thing exists." - Hui Neng RagAss Mar 2013 #88

You should have been raised like me. El Supremo Mar 2013 #90

witness! TheAmbivalante Mar 2013 #96

Ain't Big Religion grand? blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #101

Is the Pope Catholic? WheelWalker Mar 2013 #102

Amen! progressoid Mar 2013 #103

Adeum qui latificat, trumad mitchtv Mar 2013 #107

I was raised by JEB Mar 2013 #108

As an Atheist I find it fascinating.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #110

+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #115

Let's be honest, all Christian-based religions, including catholicism, have foundations in Paganism justiceischeap Mar 2013 #123

Even calling the old religions "pagan".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #159

And all gasser85 Mar 2013 #176

I was sent to a Catholic School when I was four years old, Zorra Mar 2013 #111

K&R ReRe Mar 2013 #116

Raised/educated Catholic. Non-practicing/agnostic, don't really care either way. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #117

Ever been to Italy? moondust Mar 2013 #118

I think you - as well as most other people - are looking at this thing sort of inside-out. harmonicon Mar 2013 #121

"accident of history" trumad Mar 2013 #125

My mom never wore sleeveless blouses or a bathing suit in public catbyte Mar 2013 #127

Just wait for the next election when this Pope sends his letter out to the bishops... Walk away Mar 2013 #136

Don't forget the election season press releases announcing which pro-choice Democrats will be denied smokey nj Mar 2013 #138

I agree. Apophis Mar 2013 #151

You have a right to 840high Mar 2013 #152

I admire your stance, trumad libodem Mar 2013 #153

Shouldn't you have the SAME contempt for the USA? on the same grounds, that is, unless bookkeeping patrice Mar 2013 #154

As an American who must pay taxes by law, I can only really be held ... Walk away Mar 2013 #158

Whether you agree with them or not, Christians believe that it is Baptism that makes them Christian, patrice Mar 2013 #162

The only problem with you version of catholicism is that it isn't Walk away Mar 2013 #164

What version of anything should anyone's be but their own? wow. nt patrice Mar 2013 #172

The only problem with your version of MY version is that you are an authoritarian thinker, i.e. patrice Mar 2013 #173

It's isn't my opinion. It is the dogma of the church you say you belong to. Walk away Mar 2013 #180

you have the cred to say it. barbtries Mar 2013 #156

. . . but i love the nuns on the bus! eom ellenfl Mar 2013 #160

HUGE K&R. cliffordu Mar 2013 #161

Basically the "faith" Catholics talk about refers to their own church and not in a deity. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #163

As a Catholic-Atheist, I don't disagree, but propose that you consider the following context: Texas Lawyer Mar 2013 #165

The most important religious demographic trend in the U.S. RainDog Mar 2013 #168

Thank you ellie Mar 2013 #166

Religion is for IDIOTS! penndragon69 Mar 2013 #167

Amen! Walk away Mar 2013 #181

Shouldn't this read you WERE a Catholic? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #174

Amen. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #177

After I took a 'History of Western Civilizations' course... Blanks Mar 2013 #178