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The many dismissive posts about rape even here on DU indicate that not all men got the message. yardwork Nov 2012 #1
That's true. Like most people, I encountered boys and men who MineralMan Nov 2012 #3
Why do you assume you know what this wide circle was up to... bettyellen Nov 2012 #79
The inference that young women should know the moral sufrommich Nov 2012 #12
that heaven05 Nov 2012 #45
I didn't get a "talk" from anybody... snooper2 Nov 2012 #2
Yes. You were brought up to respect others. MineralMan Nov 2012 #5
This cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #35
Same message I got fifteen years later, MadHound Nov 2012 #4
Ah, the contraception talk came later. MineralMan Nov 2012 #8
Yes, that was pretty much the same message I got Still Sensible Nov 2012 #6
that one hits the nail on the head liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Nov 2012 #63
Actually, I think that was pretty radical advice, and very well stated. enough Nov 2012 #7
Could be. My father was, and is, a great person. MineralMan Nov 2012 #11
I'm the same age as you. maddiemom Nov 2012 #67
I got the talk to be careful at parties gollygee Nov 2012 #9
Yes. That's the other side of the equation. MineralMan Nov 2012 #16
This is the kind of story I hear: gollygee Nov 2012 #19
People who participate in such things are sociopaths, MineralMan Nov 2012 #21
Only 4% of the population meets the definition of sociopaths gollygee Nov 2012 #22
Stories like that one are true, and have been around since always. MineralMan Nov 2012 #24
It's a minority gollygee Nov 2012 #25
I have no way to measure the size of that minority, though. MineralMan Nov 2012 #32
There have been lots of studies gollygee Nov 2012 #37
One thing about group psychology, sociopathy, and rape that needs to be considered. Springslips Nov 2012 #55
You're right that sociopaths are sometimes leaders, and MineralMan Nov 2012 #57
That is a good point. Chemisse Nov 2012 #84
But the OP is fooling himself, just because he'd bettyellen Nov 2012 #86
Many of us would prefer to think that despicable behavior is uncommon. Chemisse Nov 2012 #89
Easy way out. Way too common for men to think they shld give bros bettyellen Nov 2012 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Nov 2012 #66
societal rules were stricter back then liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #17
Back when? gollygee Nov 2012 #20
this is a good topic but I'm exhausted liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #26
Cool. I always wondered what "The talk" was. redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #10
i am a mother. i had the talk. doesnt have to come from the father, though that is good stuff. seabeyond Nov 2012 #34
You were quite fortunate your dad spoke to you about it. steve2470 Nov 2012 #13
I imagine there will always be some for whom there is no way MineralMan Nov 2012 #14
My daughter and I have already been educating my 11yo grandson. Thanks MM. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #18
Excellent. Your grandson is lucky! nt MineralMan Nov 2012 #28
If he ever harms a woman, his mother will explode and he might not survive it! nt Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #58
You had a pretty cool dad. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #23
I still do. He's 88 years old, now, and so is my mother. MineralMan Nov 2012 #27
both my boys have had that "talk" also. well before they got into a position of making their own way seabeyond Nov 2012 #29
Good job. I knew that from previous discussions. MineralMan Nov 2012 #33
Curious...do you remember hearing of any rape trials Lars39 Nov 2012 #30
Yes. The town I grew up in had just 6000 people or so. MineralMan Nov 2012 #36
Having grown up in a very similar small town Lars39 Nov 2012 #38
I'm sure you are right. The question I was answering had to MineralMan Nov 2012 #39
I did not get that talk from my father RomneyLies Nov 2012 #31
Your Father was a wise man get the red out Nov 2012 #40
He was, and is. MineralMan Nov 2012 #41
I never got the talk. Never needed it. Bonobo Nov 2012 #42
I agree. Some people don't pay attention to what they MineralMan Nov 2012 #43
Sociopathy is not knowing that it's wrong in the first place wickerwoman Nov 2012 #59
I agree, this pulling "4% who are sociopaths" is dismissive and bettyellen Nov 2012 #78
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Bull-fucking-shit. Iggo Nov 2012 #46
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What an ugly, uncalled-for reply. Perhaps you should avail yourself of the *ignore* feature, apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #69
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I win. Iggo Nov 2012 #87
No you didn't. demmiblue Nov 2012 #92
She pulled a bullshit stat out of her ass and I called her on it. Iggo Nov 2012 #94
Your edit is admirable. demmiblue Dec 2012 #100
My father told me ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #47
That old saying never was true. MineralMan Nov 2012 #48
I never believed it ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #51
That is sad. MineralMan Nov 2012 #52
as you said, most men and boys know. but I was thinking about that cretin rivard, whose father niyad Nov 2012 #49
Sociopathy generates more sociopathy. MineralMan Nov 2012 #50
I think it's a little too pat to blame all rape on sociopaths Chemisse Nov 2012 #93
Another note: Sociopaths know that what they MineralMan Nov 2012 #53
I started first grade in 1960... SouthernLiberal Nov 2012 #54
Hmm. I have no experience with Catholic schools. MineralMan Nov 2012 #56
My husband was told at a young age no means no. kimbutgar Nov 2012 #60
Trying to force oneself on another is wrong, too. MineralMan Nov 2012 #62
Bless your father wryter2000 Nov 2012 #61
You had a good father treestar Nov 2012 #64
I often envy my daughter's generation where young women can have sexual maddiemom Nov 2012 #65
Yes. We're of about the same age. MineralMan Nov 2012 #68
It hasn't gone away. LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #96
Remember that group of popular high school boys some years ago who named themselves the tblue37 Nov 2012 #70
I don't actually remember that, but it's not surprising. MineralMan Nov 2012 #71
I couldnt agree more that marions ghost Nov 2012 #72
The Spur Posse wickerwoman Nov 2012 #73
Yes, "Spur Posse." I don't know why I couldn't come up tblue37 Nov 2012 #74
Getting it out of movies and other mainstream media LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #75
Not Oprah obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #98
In any situation in which there is an imbalance in power, the greater the imbalance, the greater the patrice Nov 2012 #76
Considering the statistics on rape... maybe not most but many boys did and do rape. KittyWampus Nov 2012 #77
I know maybe 4 women who weren't raped or sexually molested. Maybe 4. Butterbean Nov 2012 #82
What a great way to phrase it. Chemisse Nov 2012 #83
I never had "the talk" unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #85
There aren't ANY "all men rape" posts - just a bunch of men bettyellen Nov 2012 #95
I dunno unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #99
Women have explained in detail here that at times bettyellen Dec 2012 #102
I don't know about anyone else unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #106
Glad you had this experience. MadrasT Nov 2012 #88
Major kudos to your pop, MM! AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #91
K&R n/t JoeyT Nov 2012 #97
Not all young men LadyHawkAZ Dec 2012 #101
Thanks for that, MM. Hekate Dec 2012 #103
Growing up Separation Dec 2012 #104
Yes. Like most people, I went to a lot of parties in college. MineralMan Dec 2012 #105
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