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49. It's no wonder the revolution people are obsessed with blaming Hillary for not doing more rallies

Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:47 AM

Apr 26

because The Revolution was supposed to happen with rallies.

The People would drop everything and hold huge rallies demanding Republicans do their jobs and they'd totally listen and be nice. I wondered for a long time what the revolution was and then the leader explained in an interview with Rachel Maddow.

Yet Mr. Rallies, Trump, lost (and barely won in 2016) and Biden didn't even really campaign. A miracle. And they always freak out that the candidate with the most money HAS to win which obviously isn't true (Hi, Mitt Romney, Hi, Nina Turner, etc.)

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The idiots who said the Supreme Court doesn't matter in 2016 and 2000, f**K YOU!!! [View all] JohnSJ Apr 25 OP

👏👏👏Shout it to the skies. Traildogbob Apr 25 #1

This x 1M FalloutShelter Apr 25 #2

i believe some said: campaign in Wisconsin doesn't matter Tetrachloride Apr 25 #3

I remember. Many want to forget that. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 25 #9

Only apologists I see in this thread are right in this mini-thread. W_HAMILTON Apr 25 #16

Thank you. betsuni Apr 26 #45

Lets no forget that third party voters gave Trump the nomination...inexusable and Demsrule86 Apr 26 #46

True But... HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 26 #57

NO, no buts. The courts were at stake and they knew it...no excuses. UNFORGIVEABlE... no excuse will ever suffice IMHO. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #58

Mistakes are made in every campaign mcar Apr 26 #61

She Did Not Lose Because Of 3rd Party Candidates HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 27 #62

Jill Stein got more votes in MI, WI and PA than Trump's margin of victory mcar Apr 27 #65

I Would Never Vote For Stein HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 28 #83

This! mcar Apr 26 #60

In 2016, Hillary didn't make even 1 general election campaign appearance in Wisconsin. Not one. elocs Apr 25 #32

I see...so it is not the voters who voted for Stein or even Trump in some case...saw it on JPR, Demsrule86 Apr 26 #47

The Democratic nominee was too confident ("hubris" was the popular 2016 insult word) and that "gave them permission" betsuni Apr 27 #63

Yet neither Biden nor Trump are ignoring Wisconsin now nor taking it for granted. elocs Apr 27 #68

Why would a few more rallies in white rural Wisconsin have made any difference? betsuni Apr 26 #38

They just want to blame Hillary...because they want to excuse the behavior of those who Demsrule86 Apr 26 #48

They weren't for anything in 2016, only against an imaginary cartoon villain Hillary. betsuni Apr 26 #51

I don't think Trump will win in 24. But the idea that 2016 idiots are still at it...is unbelievable. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #52

Biden will win (unless worst case scenario). Yet there are still both sides idiots in 2024. Unbelievable. betsuni Apr 26 #55

So True, I hold onto the fact that they have lost every election...it was a year ago when Sarah Palin lost in Alaska. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #59

hmm. I don't know a single voter who said anything like that in any election. N ot Ever. msfiddlestix Apr 25 #4

I heard that by some when it was pointed out that the Supreme Court was at stake in 2016 after some anti-Hillary JohnSJ Apr 25 #5

For the record, that's a higher percentage than Clinton primary voters voting for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 25 #8

A lot of Bernie supporters were not Democrats, never were. It's wrong to think the Dem party owns the Earth-shine Apr 27 #66

They proved that in 2000 and 2016, and contributed to THIS supreme court JohnSJ Apr 27 #69

Bernie hid in his cushy, ivory Washington tower in 2000 and let W steal that election! GoreWon2000 Apr 27 #70

This is the first time I've heard Bernie being blamed for Bush v Gore. Earth-shine Apr 27 #72

Yes, those awful Bernie supporters in 2000. Earth-shine Apr 27 #71

Ask Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Susan Sarandon, JohnSJ Apr 27 #75

You are pissing in the wind now. Earth-shine Apr 27 #76

You are right. I am well past rational conversation, that ended in 2016 when a racist, sexit, bigot won the presidency JohnSJ Apr 27 #78

Despair is not an option. That's how Jill Stein gets votes. Earth-shine Apr 27 #80

I am with you now, but unless we win in November I am not so sure. JohnSJ Apr 27 #81

You will be with me either way come next year. Earth-shine Apr 27 #82

Bernie Sanders very own campaign staffers did MistakenLamb Apr 25 #11

Indeed they did DFW Apr 25 #15

And very vocal about it. Mentioning the SC or the enormous obvious difference between the parties betsuni Apr 26 #39

Oh dear me. They did and they do, every 4 years. Hekate Apr 25 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Apr 25 #35

I have been saying that for years gopiscrap Apr 25 #6

The Federalist Society Fascists have captured our Supreme Court. magicarpet Apr 25 #7

Yup, fuck the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation. Initech Apr 25 #10

"We need to maintain the majority in the Senate in order to..." ? You mean the one-vote majority? Hekate Apr 25 #21

OK, let's commit to INCREASING..... MyOwnPeace Apr 25 #29

We need a landslide, but only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election at a time, iirc Hekate Apr 25 #31

Well,... 51 votes in the senate will confirm,... magicarpet Apr 26 #36

51 votes isn't enough. We need a way better majority. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #53

One might argue they also have a foothold in the DOJ. Earth-shine Apr 27 #67

All of this is on their heads mcar Apr 25 #12

The stakes were very clear in 2016. JohnSJ Apr 25 #13

Crystal mcar Apr 25 #14

PAID speeches. It was a huge sin (only for Hillary) to be PAID as former First Lady, senator and SoS for speeches. betsuni Apr 26 #40

Yes. And Trump would bring on "the revolution." Yay! mcar Apr 26 #42

It's no wonder the revolution people are obsessed with blaming Hillary for not doing more rallies betsuni Apr 26 #49

Blame, blame, blame, for all the good it will do you. Earth-shine Apr 27 #73

"Dont threaten me with the Supreme Court!" emulatorloo Apr 25 #17

The anti-Hillary theme song. oasis Apr 25 #25

Also earlier. I remember having some pitched battles here over electing Obama... Hekate Apr 25 #18

I think they consider themselves too noble & righteous to lower themselves to vote for a perceived lesser of 2 evils. elocs Apr 25 #33

I'm with you. Even after Obama was elected they wouldn't give up the nastiness... Hekate Apr 25 #34

SCrOTUS is destroying it's own legitamacy pfitz59 Apr 25 #19

Yes, but they already did that with the Dobbs decision, and the current chaos that is causing JohnSJ Apr 25 #22

Ignore them? Sorry, it does not work that way. Hekate Apr 25 #23

All That Matters HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 25 #24

I hate so called Christians who want to deny women medical care and I despise the Demsrule86 Apr 26 #50

This is nonsense - "There is no excuse for those who did not back Hillary and yes Obama fully...none." Earth-shine Apr 27 #74

Too bad. I watched these folks who were very engaged...and I feel they are to blame. I will neverfo Demsrule86 Apr 27 #77

And your anger will never help to earn their votes ... never ... thus condemning us to more losses. Earth-shine Apr 27 #79

Maybe time to consider moondust Apr 25 #26

I second the original poster's emotion. oswaldactedalone Apr 25 #27

Hillary Clinton called it in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #28

And they still won't admit Democrats aren't the same or worse than Republicans and their whole betsuni Apr 26 #41

K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Apr 25 #30

I don't recall anyone or any reports of people doing this. Chakaconcarne Apr 26 #37

... mcar Apr 26 #43

I've never seen a panda in real life so therefore they don't exist. betsuni Apr 26 #44

I remember in 2020 several people on this forum were not that walkingman Apr 26 #54

to the Googleplex! WhiteTara Apr 26 #56

K and R. Tell it like it is. oasis Apr 27 #64