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Lunabell

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55. None of the above.

Wed Apr 24, 2024, 12:54 AM

Apr 24

I am saying that corporate media is in the hands of right wing billionaires who will paint a broad picture of the left (Democrats) as being antisemitic communists. The corporate media will finger point at us because that's what they are paid to do. Very few true journalists exist anymore. And the ordinary person who listens to their message won't look any deeper and see what is going on. We, Democrats, need to be in front of this story instead of lagging behind and letting corporate media do the bidding of billionaires who desperately want the orange blobfather back in office. They want more tax cuts and will lie, cheat and steal elections any way they can.

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The left needs to handle its antisemitism problem - Now. [View all] Lunabell Apr 23 OP

Actually, Matt is lying: "When racists on the right voiced repugnant ideas, some of us on the center-right stood up and FSogol Apr 23 #1

The Left doesn't have an antisemitism problem. Some people are antisemitic. That's not on us. Autumn Apr 23 #2

Actally, you are wrong. Lunabell Apr 23 #4

Left and far left are not the synonymous. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 23 #6

I know that! Lunabell Apr 23 #9

Far Left is not the Left and if you have to use a conservative asshole to bash the Left Autumn Apr 23 #7

I know that the left and far left are different!! Lunabell Apr 23 #10

I agree. Antisemitism is agnostic and apolitical. But it is still on us to condemn it. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #26

I'd disagree at this point. Happy Hoosier Apr 24 #64

You can disagree all you want to. No group is responsible for the actions of a few bad characters Autumn Apr 24 #68

Quite so, but that doesn't address the problem. Happy Hoosier Apr 24 #74

You do know who kept Hamas in power? Netanyahu. Autumn Apr 24 #75

Is this conservative guy conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism? nt Gore1FL Apr 23 #3

He is conservative. Lunabell Apr 23 #5

Hate should be condemned. I am trying to identify what, specific incidents are being defined as hate. nt Gore1FL Apr 23 #8

The antisemitic chants at Columbia. Lunabell Apr 23 #11

Did you miss this weekend? EllieBC Apr 23 #12

So all Columbia protesters are left? NT Gore1FL Apr 23 #19

These "protesters" aren't helping Mz Pip Apr 24 #59

Yep. Unless someone points out specifics, I will just chalk it up to the usual "any criticism of Israel is antisemitism" Hassin Bin Sober Apr 23 #13

Yes! Right here. Autumn Apr 23 #14

There are a couple specifics right above your post sarisataka Apr 23 #15

And we know they sre left, how, exactly? Nt Gore1FL Apr 23 #20

How many republicans are out there supporting Palestinians sarisataka Apr 23 #21

How many Republicans hate Jews? Gore1FL Apr 23 #23

Quite a few republicans hate Jews. sarisataka Apr 23 #24

Majority at the protest and organizers are Jewish Avalon Sparks Apr 23 #50

Source? Behind the Aegis Apr 24 #58

I'm sorry, you'll need to back up that claim sarisataka Apr 24 #65

Perhaps they hate war crimes. choie Apr 23 #45

You can put your head in the sand Ontheboundry Apr 23 #28

The two incidents mentioned were both on public streets, no student id needed. ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #30

There was incidents from Ontheboundry Apr 23 #31

Which incidents? ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #60

I've seen enough videos Ontheboundry Apr 24 #62

I've seen videos filmed on the streets, but not in the camp itself. ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #63

Including Ontheboundry Apr 24 #66

What about her? ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #67

Because the protestors speaking out in the press Dorian Gray Apr 24 #61

That is what it seems to be Bettie Apr 25 #80

That is the whole purpose TheRealNorth Apr 23 #17

He's not conflating it. He knows, he just using it as a wedge issue to divide the left, and it seems to be working since krawhitham Apr 25 #81

I'm really discouraged with the whole mess FirstLight Apr 23 #16

A problem cannot be handled if people will not see there is a problem sarisataka Apr 23 #18

If I'm against Israel's current (and prior) obliteration of Gaza, am I an antisemite? Iggo Apr 23 #22

I feel the same about Israel and think netenyahu is a war criminal. Lunabell Apr 23 #25

How is it we on the left have a problem while Trump holds weekly rallys promoting hate of Migrants... rgbecker Apr 23 #33

None of the above. Lunabell Apr 24 #55

Exactly some are using the "No true Scotsman" argument Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 24 #69

If one is vociferously against Israel's current (and prior) obliteration of Gaza while being silent on Beastly Boy Apr 23 #27

Hamas terrorism is a known known uponit7771 Apr 23 #29

Semitism: "relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic." Gore1FL Apr 23 #32

Antisemitism is hatred of Jews. Mossfern Apr 23 #35

Have you ever heard of an antisemite hating on an Arab? Beastly Boy Apr 23 #38

Huh? Maybe that's because those who are anti-Arab choie Apr 23 #44

It is beyond dispute that the term "antisemitism" applies exclusively to hatered of Jews Beastly Boy Apr 24 #52

Arabs are 'semites' to the extent they speak a semitic language, Abolishinist Apr 24 #56

This bullshit is nothing but another form of delegitimizing the suffering of Jews. Behind the Aegis Apr 24 #57

Well... Polybius Apr 23 #41

gee some of us just don't like genocide dembotoz Apr 23 #34

Only some of "us". Beastly Boy Apr 23 #39

well you sure got that backwards dembotoz Apr 25 #82

Fuck Matt Lewis, that RWer Celerity Apr 23 #36

Quite The Resume ProfessorGAC Apr 23 #37

The far right and far left bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Apr 23 #40

Saying "The Left" is like saying 'The religious". Ping Tung Apr 23 #42

It is that RW bellend Matt Lewis using that broadbrush. He is a POS. Celerity Apr 23 #49

"Trust me when I say this matters. When racists on the right voiced repugnant ideas, some of us on the center-right choie Apr 23 #43

During the BLM protests, we had gangs making runs on area shopping malls. shrike3 Apr 23 #46

I remember reading about how much effort BLM organizers made to keep protests peaceful betsuni Apr 24 #54

I was watching the film "Ruskin" and was so impressed by the organizing, which went so far beyond MLK shrike3 Apr 24 #71

Simple response - Hamas supporters are worthless pieces of shit. Bibi supporters are worthless pieces of shit. FHRRK Apr 23 #47

My feelings exactly. Lunabell Apr 24 #53

I'm at the "Plague o' Both Your Houses" phase. Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet. shrike3 Apr 24 #72

Corbynisation is a real threat, an anti-Semitism scandal marred UK Labour for nearly a decade. tritsofme Apr 23 #48

What kind of Avalon Sparks Apr 23 #51

Thank you. Goddessartist Apr 24 #70

Thank you Big Blue Marble Apr 25 #83

Denying Jewish indigeneity to Israel is a core antisemitic belief of the far left mathematic Apr 24 #73

Israel did not exist until 1948 Parzival72 Apr 24 #77

Define antisemitism for me. atreides1 Apr 24 #76

So I have been thinking about this issue for several days now Johnny2X2X Apr 24 #78

My values are not politically partial randr Apr 25 #79

Matt Lewis. really? Big Blue Marble Apr 25 #84