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lapucelle

(18,337 posts) Mon Apr 22, 2024, 09:23 PM Apr 22

Last night Butler Lawn, Columbia University: "We have Zionists who have entered the camp" [View all]

"Columbia students eject Jews from the quad"

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Last night Butler Lawn, Columbia University: "We have Zionists who have entered the camp" [View all] lapucelle Apr 22 OP

Time for some arrests. Irish_Dem Apr 22 #1

.... lapucelle Apr 22 #2

OMG! This not the place. TeamProg Apr 22 #20

To use a Futurama reference... Jedi Guy Apr 23 #26

Exactly. revmclaren Apr 23 #28

I'm sure that if they had their way... Jedi Guy Apr 23 #31

Actual Nazis did horrible, horrible things to their fellow men and women. These students did not TeamProg Apr 23 #35

Non-members or Jews? EX500rider Apr 23 #36

Opposing protesters is what I wrote. It seems you missed my main point. TeamProg Apr 23 #38

No here's what you wrote verbatim EX500rider Apr 23 #41

First off, their 'club' isn't a real thing so 'non-members' aren't a TeamProg Apr 23 #43

So you're repudiating the terms you introduced into the discussion. lapucelle Apr 23 #61

That's just cemantics, the important thing is, if justice prevails, history will NOT be kind. TeamProg Apr 23 #62

You are correct, history will not be kind to anti-Semitism on US campuses EX500rider Apr 23 #66

For the hundredth millionth time, it's not anti-semetic to be Anti-Netanyahu / Anti-Israeli politics. To blend the two TeamProg Apr 23 #67

Yes I am sure these chants are just "anti-netanyahu" lol EX500rider Apr 23 #73

To exclude someone because they are jewish is not the same getagrip_already Apr 23 #83

But atreides1 Apr 23 #84

IMHO, you are totally missing the plot here. Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #39

What I see is Israel annexing land beyond the 1948 Partition. TeamProg Apr 23 #44

You know it was the Arabs that attecked them, right? Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #46

You did not address the land annexation issue. TeamProg Apr 23 #47

Israel took Gaza from Egypt and the Gohlan from Syria because they kept using them as jumping off points for attacks ripcord Apr 25 #118

What does that have to do with Jews in the U.S.? ripcord Apr 23 #59

That's two different issues. #1: 'Pro' and 'opposition' to Israel's retaliation is worldwide. #2: I didn't hear the pro TeamProg Apr 23 #60

The protesters were using the word "Zionist" Mossfern Apr 23 #69

Were they addressing Jews they knew to be Zionist forthemiddle Apr 23 #81

the identifier was allegedly a visible Magen David necklace so yeah MistakenLamb Apr 24 #91

I can't speak for the history, but presently, annexing land that is not Israel's as was designated in the 1948 Partition TeamProg Apr 24 #93

You keep bringing up this 1948 partition The Revolution Apr 24 #114

It was drawn up in late 1947, but not put into place until 1948. That's why it's called the 1948 Partition. TeamProg Apr 24 #116

But it was never put in place The Revolution Apr 25 #117

Israel was granted land in the Partition ripcord Apr 25 #119

Actual Nazis started small and gradually escalated from there. Jedi Guy Apr 23 #42

+1 betsuni Apr 23 #89

Actual Nazis did not begin with the "horrible things" wnylib Apr 24 #92

"Actual Nazis did horrible, horrible things to their fellow men and women." keithbvadu2 Apr 24 #102

I disagree. Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #37

I admit I'm a bit flummoxed by the actions of these students TexasDem69 Apr 22 #3

It is both. Ace Rothstein Apr 22 #6

Both, yup. And naive and performative outrage to get laid. AnrothElf Apr 22 #19

Some of Rebl2 Apr 23 #56

that's already been answered stopdiggin Apr 23 #68

"Outside agitators" was the term used during the anti-Vietnam War protests. sop Apr 24 #101

You shouldn't be. Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #40

Yeah, fucking Authoritarian Anti Semitic Assholes.. Cha Apr 22 #4

"a private, exclusive, no-Zionists-allowed community on your campus quad." betsuni Apr 22 #10

Yes , Obvious. Who the hell do they think they are? Cha Apr 22 #11

Well, on the video of some of them being arrested: "Why are you doing this to me?" betsuni Apr 23 #34

Pity Wallow Harder protesters. Cha Apr 23 #75

Your posts on this are radioactive sarisataka Apr 22 #5

I would imagine that some people might have me on "ignore". lapucelle Apr 22 #9

WTF indeed. yardwork Apr 22 #7

Protesters demanding privacy. betsuni Apr 22 #8

.. Cha Apr 22 #12

Ludicrous. How dare obvious anti-Semitism be reported! Must be right-wing sources and betsuni Apr 23 #32

what a lot of people have been pointing to all along stopdiggin Apr 22 #13

Anti-Zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Apr 22 #14

and is anybody else struck by the absolute CRINGE factor stopdiggin Apr 22 #15

Kinda slaps you in the face, so yeah... I was struck by that AnrothElf Apr 22 #18

Yes! betsuni Apr 23 #23

serious cringe stopdiggin Apr 23 #24

At first I read the OP as "We have Zombies who have entered the camp" and thought fine, as in any horror movie you betsuni Apr 23 #29

Disturbing... the whole chanting hivemind mass insanity of it all. AnrothElf Apr 22 #16

This has a certain Occupy Wall Street/Zuccotti Park sit-in vibe to it. sop Apr 24 #104

Yah I was one of those people who was into OWS at first. AnrothElf Apr 24 #105

Chilling! Mossfern Apr 22 #17

Post removed Post removed Apr 23 #30

Cult shit Mountainguy Apr 22 #21

The term Zeitghost Apr 22 #22

These fanatics Mz Pip Apr 23 #25

Columbia is on private property, and that means protesters do not JohnSJ Apr 23 #27

Disgusting, isn't it? I'm not surprised at all. Oopsie Daisy Apr 23 #33

This::::: TeamProg Apr 23 #45

Sorry, "Quick look over here!" doesn't work on me. lapucelle Apr 23 #49

Do the perspectives of your fellow humans and ideological house mates hold any weight? TeamProg Apr 23 #50

Sometimes *people* who proffer unsolicited advice lapucelle Apr 23 #74

Jewish students at Colombia aren't responsible for the comradebillyboy Apr 23 #57

Well, of course not. Not sure how that relates through all of the back and forth, though. I am neither Muslim, TeamProg Apr 23 #58

Yeah, but the GD Anti Semitic Protesters don't Cha Apr 23 #88

That has absolutely nothing to do with US Jews ripcord Apr 23 #71

A level ugliness I'd hoped would not be met Torchlight Apr 23 #48

Columbia has allowed the encampment to take a specific space for their protest (a whole Lawn) ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #51

How about nobody throws punches? RandySF Apr 23 #52

If counter protestors do not mingle, punches would be tough. ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #54

Can you show me where Columbia gave permission for these groups to have exclusive use of the quad? ripcord Apr 23 #63

There was a story about a business school professor who wanted to enter the protest area... ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #76

the University has said that "Zionist" cannot mingle? stopdiggin Apr 23 #70

There is a business school professor who wanted to mingle ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #77

a 'safety issue' adopted (and enforced) entirely at the hands of stopdiggin Apr 23 #72

Google Shai Davidai ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #80

Columbia hasn't "allowed the encampment to take a specific space for their protest". lapucelle Apr 23 #78

Actually, the university is keeping counter protestors out... ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #79

There is no "tacit agreement" between the Columbia University and the encampment trespassers. lapucelle Apr 23 #85

This discussion is about who is keeping pro Israel folks out. ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #86

This discussion is about the false claim lapucelle Apr 23 #87

And columbia itself had kept non protesters away. ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #90

Were the Jewish students counter protesters Mossfern Apr 24 #94

I'll be brave and respond 'cause I do like dialogue with you even though we disagree on much about this situation. Nanjeanne Apr 24 #96

Thank you for being brave! Honestly. Mossfern Apr 24 #99

The only incident i have actually seen reported on is the professor, Shai Davidai ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #100

So you see the actions of creating a human chain and chanting Mossfern Apr 24 #103

Non- campers trying to enter the camp? ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #106

Were the students protesting? Mossfern Apr 24 #107

I can't comment on the groups criteria for being a part of the camp ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #108

I'd love to know what the critera are. Mossfern Apr 24 #109

That's odd that it would seem orwellian. ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #110

So they are a separate entity given authority by the administration of Columbia? Mossfern Apr 24 #111

There are jews in the camp, so they are not excluded based on ethnicity... ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #112

Call me "Pollyanna" Mossfern Apr 24 #113

I think their goal is dialogue with the university, not with supporters of Israel. ExciteBike66 Apr 24 #115

I would have kept walking, not stopped for their human chain ripcord Apr 25 #120

Didn't these fools learn from the Safe Space We Need Some Muscle prof at Missouri? Prairie Gates Apr 23 #53

These protestors are cowards and frauds. madaboutharry Apr 23 #55

NYU protesters had mass-produced signs: Capitalism is deadly, Dismantle the Police State. betsuni Apr 23 #65

Very unnerving and upsetting. Fla Dem Apr 23 #64

That is certainly ugly. While I think students have the right to protest - I'm not sure what their right to privacy is. Nanjeanne Apr 23 #82

Did the excluded students identify as Zionists? Mossfern Apr 24 #95

I can't really tell from the video really much but I don't think anyone was a "victim". Victim to me implies something Nanjeanne Apr 24 #97

I meant it as figurative Mossfern Apr 24 #98

That was at Columbia? DFW Apr 25 #121