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In 1979 Because the U.S. gave medical aid to the Shah, Iran decided to take [View all] JohnSJ Apr 13 OP

Yep! LeftInTX Apr 13 #1

The Shah was ruler because of the US mymomwasright Apr 13 #2

The Brits and The US took out the progressive leader of Iran gay texan Apr 13 #3

Yes, but it doesn't excuse the Islamic Republic of Iran and the fall of a civilization LeftInTX Apr 13 #6

Not quite. It goes back to when the Brits and US (CIA) took out the democratically elected... brush Apr 13 #13

"we have a winnah!!!" gay texan Apr 13 #15

Khomeini got rid of the post-revolution moderate, government. LeftInTX Apr 13 #17

After the shah left, Iran democratically elected a president in early 1980. (Banisadr) LeftInTX Apr 13 #16

Remember the term "the great Satan?" That nation never forgot the coup of 1953. brush Apr 13 #20

So, it's an excuse to have coups against the new government and install Khomeini? LeftInTX Apr 13 #23

Just saying, coups happen, memories can be long and history unfolds. brush Apr 13 #24

Why did Turkey kill all the Armenians? LeftInTX Apr 13 #25

Are we talking about Turkiye now? brush Apr 13 #26

Yes. I'm asking why..My family is from there and were killed. LeftInTX Apr 13 #27

You tell me. Since you family is from there, you should know more than I do. brush Apr 13 #33

Because they were breathing. LeftInTX Apr 13 #34

Sorry for your family's losses. Pls go into more detail. I never knew the reasons for what I think can be legitimately.. brush Apr 13 #35

Here: LeftInTX Apr 13 #36

Thank you for educating me on the tragedy. The break up of that empire has lead to futher tradgies also. brush Apr 14 #55

Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are all unstable. Jordan manages a tight-rope walk to maintain stability. LeftInTX Apr 14 #56

Yep, we could be looking at another 75 years of instability... brush Apr 14 #58

I don't think that anyone is excusing or negating wnylib Apr 14 #54

I get that. Western morality and views often are of less influence in nations... brush Apr 14 #57

You left out the Iraq-Iran War and Iran-Contra PufPuf23 Apr 13 #28

Iran 1953: State Department Finally Releases Updated Official History of Mosaddeq Coup ... in 2017 cliffside Apr 13 #4

Iran also had an elected president during this time period. This is often often forgotten. LeftInTX Apr 13 #9

The Iraq (war on)-Iran started in September 1980. PufPuf23 Apr 13 #30

So did Carter instigate the war on Iran? It was building up the entire time he was president. 1975 on. LeftInTX Apr 13 #32

Do you know the difference between the Ottomans, the Young Turks, and the Turkey Republic founded by Ataturk? PufPuf23 Apr 13 #37

Yes, I am quite familiar LeftInTX Apr 13 #38

How did you come up with that ugly accusation? PufPuf23 Apr 13 #40

You said my knowledge of history of the time that my family was killed was weak. LeftInTX Apr 13 #47

In this thread you left out 25 plus years of history -omitted PufPuf23 Apr 14 #52

Skipping ahead a few decades does little to help people understand the complexity of US/Iran relations ... cliffside Apr 13 #41

Yes, it's complicated. I wish Banisadr would have been able to stay on. LeftInTX Apr 13 #43

I wonder what would have happened if Mosaddeq had not be ousted by the US/UK? nt cliffside Apr 13 #48

I have no idea. You would think everything would be much better. LeftInTX Apr 14 #50

Exactly, it does no good to skip over decades of history. nt cliffside Apr 14 #53

ETA: Nixon did not do anything to reign the shah in! LeftInTX Apr 13 #46

Yes we gave him a blank check, also supported Saddam until we did not. nt cliffside Apr 14 #49

His name was Mohammed Mossadeq. The Unmitigated Gall Apr 13 #5

So, it's OK to torture innocent diplomat employees and overthrow the new Iranian president? (Banisadr) LeftInTX Apr 13 #8

Well, according to some here, especially one in particular, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 13 #11

Some here would do well in reading the following book so that they're no longer naive... brush Apr 13 #21

I don't need to read a book and I don't need you to lecture me to read a book,. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 13 #22

"there are those here who blame the US for all of the ills of the world, " OAITW r.2.0 Apr 13 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author brush Apr 13 #31

I think you meant this for Marine Engineer? OAITW r.2.0 Apr 13 #39

Yes. Sorry. brush Apr 13 #42

The Dulles brothers are dead and the CIA is not as out of control as they once were. brush Apr 13 #44

Funny how that works. The Unmitigated Gall Apr 14 #51

Of course not. And of course it doesn't justify all the evil the Iranian government has fomented in the world today. The Unmitigated Gall Apr 13 #45

Good point arthritisR_US Apr 14 #59

No it is ridiculous to claim that the reason Voltaire2 Apr 14 #61

Just the truth malaise Apr 13 #10

The Shah is the reason why my wife's family fled Persia. Xolodno Apr 13 #7

Shah of Iran's son was in at Judson school in AZ- Dec 1973 I got some Hashish from him. Boxerfan Apr 13 #12

Here is a pic of him from 1973 LeftInTX Apr 13 #14

That does look like him Boxerfan Apr 13 #18

If you met him in the fall of 1973, odds this was taken in earlier 1973 LeftInTX Apr 13 #19

That is a ridiculous reduction of Iranian history. Voltaire2 Apr 14 #60