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Texin

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27. I agree with you on that. Manufacturing was well into its decline before this was written in 1995.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
Nov 2012

I remember discussing it with a man I dated at the time who told me he had witnessed employees where he worked actually dismantling production equipment in order to send it to China back then. It's only been escalating since that period and before. I remember having a discussion with him about the Texas state legislators tossing around the idea that Texas motorists would have to be fingerprinted and the print tied to their drivers' licenses, and he told me that he wouldn't do it if it passed, to which I replied that he wouldn't be doing any legal driving in the state of Texas if he didn't. That law wasn't enacted, but the licenses today are bar coded with some sort of information that law enforcement personnel can scan into their databases.

I don't see Sagan's piece as being so much prescient as it was an observation on an increasingly intellectually lazy society. It's not entirely the fault of the masses, though. Public school curricula has never emphasized the importance of the concept of individual critical thinking and analysis of anything. And one can't lay the entire fault on the educational process in this country alone. I don't wish to incite fury, but organized religion has a long established precedent in controlling thoughts and behaviors through indoctrination and the fear of retribution and eternal damnation and punishment (as if living a hell on Earth wasn't enough for some people, it needed to follow them into an afterlife that may or may not actually exist - and probably doesn't, but the churches need to make money to survive so they make their followers obedient so they're perpetually terrified and glad to obediently pay out whatever paltry sums they can scrape together to buy salvation and keep the churches coffers filled so they won't carry their mundane personal hell into hell in the hereafter).

I read that book - one of the best books I've ever read. alberg Nov 2012 #1
That book changed my life when I exited from a fundamentalist cult Schema Thing Nov 2012 #2
Very very wise and prophetic words. I feel each day we are drifting there ... I'm amazed RKP5637 Nov 2012 #3
It takes courage... yogini Nov 2012 #11
Welcome to DU! Quantess Nov 2012 #4
Dr. Sagan was one of the wisest people I knew. RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #5
the decline in logical/scientific thinking isn't the reason for the change in the economy renate Nov 2012 #6
well said marions ghost Nov 2012 #7
and they only want xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #28
A nation full of critical thinkers would not have elected Reagan BuelahWitch Nov 2012 #8
Greed trumps critical thinking. marions ghost Nov 2012 #36
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2012 #10
My husband is doing biomedical research redstatebluegirl Nov 2012 #18
Sorry but I disagree. truedelphi Nov 2012 #25
I agree with every word you say, CrispyQ Nov 2012 #39
Somewhere inside a palatial ballroom, perhaps truedelphi Nov 2012 #50
did the exact same thing to me and is still happening, but I hope he is wrong, I need my hope RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #9
Make it so, Number one! LongTomH Nov 2012 #13
This is only tangentially related, but LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #12
The attack on public schools has been an attack on scientific literacy and reasoning. freshwest Nov 2012 #17
I don't entirely disagree. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #20
That's your and my fortunate situation. Children in areas that turned education over to corporate or freshwest Nov 2012 #29
Your post inspired much thought. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #37
The problem of home schooling, despite access to the public library in communities or the internet, freshwest Nov 2012 #38
Sagan's quote is so very true for many in our world...and that is sad. sheshe2 Nov 2012 #43
Yes, they are the future. We are in good hands, with them. With these others, I don't know, Sheshe. freshwest Nov 2012 #44
Hitler's youth going blindly into battle... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #46
And we are there now, very little enlightenment left. freshwest Nov 2012 #14
It takes courage... yogini Nov 2012 #15
The Main Problems is: Ligyron Nov 2012 #33
That's why we need to remain "mindful" yogini Nov 2012 #42
The inability of so many people to use any kind of critical thinking SheilaT Nov 2012 #16
Democrats use sentiment; Republicans use principles; neither use quantitative analysis of the facts. FarCenter Nov 2012 #19
Holy Billions and Billions Batman ... meegbear Nov 2012 #21
Carl Sagan was well aware of NAFTA and most likely the ALEC pipe dream.... midnight Nov 2012 #22
prescience heaven05 Nov 2012 #23
I'd be more impressed if he'd written this in the 60's. SpankMe Nov 2012 #24
I agree with you on that. Manufacturing was well into its decline before this was written in 1995. Texin Nov 2012 #27
I dropped everything and have been bora13 Nov 2012 #26
That's why this kind of sharing works! yogini Nov 2012 #31
NAILED it: "... unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true ... " patrice Nov 2012 #30
knr spanone Nov 2012 #32
This man was so far beyond his time. Wish he was still with us. Paper Roses Nov 2012 #34
Wow, how prescient! n/t arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #35
We were in trouble back when he said that Hydra Nov 2012 #40
A superb book from a first-rate mind. hifiguy Nov 2012 #41
I've bought that book four times bhikkhu Nov 2012 #45
Same here Yavapai Nov 2012 #48
I grew up agent46 Nov 2012 #47
Holy shit! blackspade Nov 2012 #49
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