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haele

(12,692 posts)
50. Who says they were undocumented Geraldo?
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:05 AM
Mar 29

The two who survived had reportedly been in the country 17 and 19 years. They probably had documents. They could have just as easily been Naturalized Citizens or here on a green card or work/asylum visa.
Not all immigrants in the US born south of the border are undocumented.

This being said - construction work is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. Long, irregular hours. Tedious, repetitive physical work. Unsafe, unprotected environments. Unscrupulous employees, with a labor force that is typically considered fungible and unskilled and not enough oversight to ensure they are properly trained, outfitted, and in some cases, not really compensated for the profit their labor brings their employer.
Construction workers are too often treated with less respect than the rental equipment used on the job. Especially "day labor", hired on for a small job and let go once they aren't needed.
And often they face enormous risks for crippling injuries and death daily without compensation to them or their families should something happen to them at work.
All so the rest of us can have living, shopping, and office spaces; roads, utilities infrastructure, and other "nice things" that we barely notice as we go about our own business.
Immigrants typically get these jobs because most citizens refuse to seriously work low paying temp jobs. People in the US somehow associate construction labor with slacker dudes that are between or can't hold down real jobs, older teens, or college students on break. I don't know why, it's a hard, underpaying business that operates on razor thin margins when approached honestly. And it's extremely dangerous, with long-term affects on health even if all the safety measures are followed.

Haele

I will echo his message and sentiment (not Geraldo* personally). hlthe2b Mar 28 #1
and to their families...... a kennedy Mar 28 #3
Yes. A tragedy all the way around... hlthe2b Mar 28 #5
Yep. And to their families. calimary Mar 29 #48
Haven't seen those but he seriously changed a horrible part of the USA underpants Mar 28 #6
I remember that documentary investigative work much earlier in his career and was a fan then... hlthe2b Mar 28 #8
"Apparently Undocumented" seems at the least a slur unweird Mar 29 #51
Undocumented Migrant is the current term IbogaProject Mar 29 #52
The problem is with the word "apparently". niyad Mar 29 #54
Oh that is bad IbogaProject Mar 29 #57
Yes but we've had decades to fix it. In fact, whatever bills he signed should have been revoked. jimfields33 Mar 28 #35
Post removed Post removed Mar 28 #2
From all appearances and reporting (and video) to date, it appears there was NO TIME. hlthe2b Mar 28 #4
It has also been reported that they had JMCKUSICK Mar 28 #9
The police that stopped traffic did so within seconds of the mayday signal from the cargo ship. hlthe2b Mar 28 #10
They were in their car eating. In the middle of the night. Why do you think they saw anything onenote Mar 28 #11
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd love to hear from one JMCKUSICK Mar 28 #13
You want to hear from a lawyer? You just did. onenote Mar 28 #21
Had their mothers not birthed them, they wouldn't have been there either JoseBalow Mar 28 #28
That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read. TwilightZone Mar 29 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Mar 28 #14
Stop it Srkdqltr Mar 28 #22
Wow. Really? jimfields33 Mar 28 #36
The bridge in total is a mile and a half long underpants Mar 28 #17
Stop. There was 90 seconds!!!! AkFemDem Mar 28 #30
Yes. Exactly. hlthe2b Mar 28 #39
The ship had repair work done just prior to the mishap. jaxexpat Mar 29 #63
i also wonder why the employer hasnt been fined , no wait, they are the job creators , cant have that. AllaN01Bear Mar 28 #16
The workers may have been 3/4 of a mile from the ends of the bridge. They wouldn't have had time Chainfire Mar 28 #25
The best time to delete this post was before you sent it. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 28 #20
Construction work is among the most deadly jobs in the nation. Last year, the most deadly job. Chainfire Mar 28 #23
Thanks Hekate Mar 28 #46
You're trying too hard. Stinky The Clown Mar 28 #27
🔥 Hekate Mar 28 #43
Ha! I didn't do the alert. But happy to take credit!! Stinky The Clown Mar 28 #45
Well, it's not like they were frozen white people embryos or anything. Shermann Mar 28 #40
At least two have been found- still inside their truck in 25 feet of water RainCaster Mar 28 #7
See comments above you for further context JMCKUSICK Mar 28 #12
Pease stop. ShazzieB Mar 28 #15
Only conjecture- no links to reputable news organizations RainCaster Mar 28 #18
Laborers sit inside their truck to eat all the time - TBF Mar 28 #19
They were eating on their break in their vehicles- one of the survivors already explained that. STOP already. AkFemDem Mar 28 #31
Oh, for fuck's sake. Your comments in this thread are nonsense pulled out of nowhere. What is the point of this? Scrivener7 Mar 28 #34
And maybe they were on a break, in the only shelter available from the niyad Mar 29 #56
This. RobinA Mar 29 #60
I had Rebl2 Mar 28 #33
Undocumented.....Documented DENVERPOPS Mar 29 #65
You forgot trophy wife number 3 and her "Einstein" visa. I do not niyad Mar 29 #69
"Einstein" visas rarely, if ever, go to "Einsteins" RandomNumbers Mar 29 #70
So why does Geraldo support those racist right wing conservatives ? JI7 Mar 28 #24
he's hispanic himself - can't ignore that.... Layzeebeaver Mar 28 #26
It's required by Hispanic code JoseBalow Mar 28 #29
LOL. Jerry Rivers is his birth-name. Geraldo Rivera is a stage name. Hekate Mar 28 #38
Haha! I did not know that! Layzeebeaver Mar 29 #49
Gerald Riviera, actually. LudwigPastorius Mar 29 #61
Is it confirmed that they were undocumented? Or is he just ASSuming? nt ecstatic Mar 28 #32
Respect to Geraldo for this Hekate Mar 28 #37
We could force every single employer Red Mountain Mar 28 #41
..........no person...... Hope22 Mar 28 #42
Well, there's an echo of the guy who was actually a decent reporter sometimes JHB Mar 28 #44
It's a measure of how debased Fox and right wing media have become.. AdamGG Mar 28 #47
Who says they were undocumented Geraldo? haele Mar 29 #50
"Apparently" is doing a lot of work here. Grins Mar 29 #53
They were working for a state contractor. Brawner Builder. Their employer has given interviews. LeftInTX Mar 29 #71
"apparently undocumented"??? evidence??? niyad Mar 29 #55
And I dare say that it's probably over 50% in Texas. flying_wahini Mar 29 #58
WaPo says "it has not been reported" that the workers were illegal? RIVERA reported it. Rocknation Mar 29 #62
Sorry I disagree with Geraldo. American citizens should be doing that job. JohnnyRingo Mar 29 #64
I'm generally not all that fond of Geraldo. But as you say, it is to his credit that he PatrickforB Mar 29 #66
Wonder if he would have said that on Fox? ificandream Mar 29 #67
He left last year I think. underpants Mar 29 #68
Yeah MorbidButterflyTat Mar 29 #72
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