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In reply to the discussion: I firmly believe the use of the word "genocide" [View all]David__77
(23,566 posts)144. Section 101 (starting at p. 59) of South Africa ICJ case extensively addresses intent (linked).
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf
For instance:
Prime Minister of Israel: On 7 October 2023, in a televised address by the Government Press Office, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised to operate forcefully everywhere.439 On 13 October 2023, he confirmed that [w]e are striking our enemies with unprecedented might . . ..440 On 15 October 2023, when Israeli airstrikes had already killed over 2,670 Palestinians, including 724 children,441 the Prime Minister stated that Israeli soldiers understand the scope of the mission and stand ready to defeat the bloodthirsty monsters who 435 UN OCHA, Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel | Flash Update #44 (19 November 2023), https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-flash-update-44; UN OCHA, Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel | Flash Update #48 (23 November 2023), https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-flashupdate-48. 436 Abandoned babies found decomposing in Gaza hospital weeks after it was evacuated, NBC News (2 December 2023), https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/abandoned-babies-found-decomposing-gaza-hospital-evacuated-rcna127533. 437 WHO, Women and newborns bearing the brunt of the conflict in Gaza, UN agencies warn (3 November 2023), https://www.who.int/news/item/03-11-2023-women-and-newborns-bearing-the-brunt-of-the-conflict-in-gaza-un-agencieswarn. 438 UN Press Release, Women bearing the brunt of Israel-Gaza conflict: UN expert (20 November 2023), https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/women-bearing-brunt-israel-gaza-conflict-un-expert (emphasis added). 439 Prime Minister of Israel, @IsraeliPM, Tweet (10:31 pm, October 7, 2023),
. 440 Address by the Prime Minister of Israel, (13 October 2023), . Translation in Only the beginning says Netanyahu as Israel makes first raids into Gaza, Reuters (13 October 2023), https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/now-is-time-war-says-israels-military-chief-2023-10-12/. 441 UNICEF, Immediate Needs Document in the State of Palestine (October December 2023) (17 October 2023), https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/immediate-needs-document-state-palestine-october-december2023. (Total as of 17:45, 15 October 2023; children as of 12:00, 14 October 2023). 60 have risen against [Israel] to destroy us.442 On 16 October 2023, in a formal address to the Israeli Knesset, he described situation as a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle, 443 a dehumanising theme to which he returned on various occasions, including: on 3 November 2023, in a letter to Israeli soldiers and officers also published on the platform X (formerly Twitter); the letter asserted that: [t]his is the war between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. We will not let up on our mission until the light overcomes the darkness the good will defeat the extreme evil that threatens us and the entire world.444 The Israeli Prime Minister also returned to the theme in his Christmas message, stating: were facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in front of their parents . . . This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, its a battle of civilization against barbarism.445 On 28 October 2023, as Israeli forces prepared their land invasion of Gaza, the Prime Minister invoked the Biblical story of the total destruction of Amalek by the Israelites, stating: you must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.446 The Prime Minister referred again to Amalek in the letter sent on 3 November 2023 to Israeli soldiers and officers.447 The relevant biblical passage reads as follows: Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.448
Much more, of course, at link.
For instance:
Prime Minister of Israel: On 7 October 2023, in a televised address by the Government Press Office, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised to operate forcefully everywhere.439 On 13 October 2023, he confirmed that [w]e are striking our enemies with unprecedented might . . ..440 On 15 October 2023, when Israeli airstrikes had already killed over 2,670 Palestinians, including 724 children,441 the Prime Minister stated that Israeli soldiers understand the scope of the mission and stand ready to defeat the bloodthirsty monsters who 435 UN OCHA, Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel | Flash Update #44 (19 November 2023), https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-flash-update-44; UN OCHA, Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel | Flash Update #48 (23 November 2023), https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-flashupdate-48. 436 Abandoned babies found decomposing in Gaza hospital weeks after it was evacuated, NBC News (2 December 2023), https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/abandoned-babies-found-decomposing-gaza-hospital-evacuated-rcna127533. 437 WHO, Women and newborns bearing the brunt of the conflict in Gaza, UN agencies warn (3 November 2023), https://www.who.int/news/item/03-11-2023-women-and-newborns-bearing-the-brunt-of-the-conflict-in-gaza-un-agencieswarn. 438 UN Press Release, Women bearing the brunt of Israel-Gaza conflict: UN expert (20 November 2023), https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/women-bearing-brunt-israel-gaza-conflict-un-expert (emphasis added). 439 Prime Minister of Israel, @IsraeliPM, Tweet (10:31 pm, October 7, 2023),
Link to tweet
. 440 Address by the Prime Minister of Israel, (13 October 2023), . Translation in Only the beginning says Netanyahu as Israel makes first raids into Gaza, Reuters (13 October 2023), https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/now-is-time-war-says-israels-military-chief-2023-10-12/. 441 UNICEF, Immediate Needs Document in the State of Palestine (October December 2023) (17 October 2023), https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/immediate-needs-document-state-palestine-october-december2023. (Total as of 17:45, 15 October 2023; children as of 12:00, 14 October 2023). 60 have risen against [Israel] to destroy us.442 On 16 October 2023, in a formal address to the Israeli Knesset, he described situation as a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle, 443 a dehumanising theme to which he returned on various occasions, including: on 3 November 2023, in a letter to Israeli soldiers and officers also published on the platform X (formerly Twitter); the letter asserted that: [t]his is the war between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. We will not let up on our mission until the light overcomes the darkness the good will defeat the extreme evil that threatens us and the entire world.444 The Israeli Prime Minister also returned to the theme in his Christmas message, stating: were facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in front of their parents . . . This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, its a battle of civilization against barbarism.445 On 28 October 2023, as Israeli forces prepared their land invasion of Gaza, the Prime Minister invoked the Biblical story of the total destruction of Amalek by the Israelites, stating: you must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.446 The Prime Minister referred again to Amalek in the letter sent on 3 November 2023 to Israeli soldiers and officers.447 The relevant biblical passage reads as follows: Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.448
Much more, of course, at link.
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Deliberately pushing millions of Palestinians into one area then carpet bombing that area is genocide.
lark
Mar 28
#1
Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, launched an attack on the territory of Israel....
Happy Hoosier
Mar 28
#70
They were 100% war crimes, and what is happening in Gaza is ethnic cleansing slipping into genocide
obamanut2012
Mar 28
#75
"From the River to the Sea" is a paraphrase of the 1977 Likud manifesto
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 28
#8
No, it is simply not answering the legimate questions I asked. There is nothing 'to the point' about non-responsiveness.
Celerity
Mar 28
#21
It isn't '2 different ways' in terms of what I am discussing, as some on both sides have and are using it to the extent
Celerity
Mar 28
#26
No, no I am not, and you are ignoring Likud, (who ARE currently in power) both in their sloganeering and their actions.
Celerity
Mar 28
#127
so many RW Israelis, including many in Likud absolutely look at it as a war on all of the Gazans and/or all Palestinians
Celerity
Mar 28
#139
No it is not lying, as that was the gist (notice it was not a quote) of what he was saying.
Celerity
Mar 28
#150
Some would rather quibble over the meaning of words than deal with the actual truth.
Earth-shine
Mar 28
#14
I think you ignore a lot of important aspects, none of which occurred with your two US examples. BUT
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#25
Barricading food aid and allowing starvation is not something the US did. Netanyahu, has.
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#33
We did not barricade/blockade them into starving. You can disagree or debate the atomic bomb
hlthe2b
Mar 28
#38
The Allies during World War One did in fact impose a blockade on the Central Powers
thucythucy
Mar 28
#66
"We did not barricade/blockade them into starving." lol, it was literally called "Operation Starvation"
EX500rider
Mar 28
#129
I could not agree with you more. It's also 100 percent antisemitism as a dog whistle
jimfields33
Mar 28
#29
Do you think the US firebombing of Tokyo where over 80k were killed and over 200k made homeless
ripcord
Mar 28
#65
That is for murdering, raping, genocidal, theocratic extremist Arabs and Persian terrorists
TheKentuckian
Mar 28
#43
If the Israeli's proceed with a military attack on the city of Rafah, I might want to reconsider my position.
patphil
Mar 28
#142
RE: "But I see no evidence that they wish to kill the population of Gaza"
IrishAfricanAmerican
Mar 28
#55
If some other country was doing it to some other walled off minority inside their borders...
Iggo
Mar 28
#58
Our gov't has condemned China and the Saudis for human rights violations and more, many times in the past.
Earth-shine
Mar 28
#165
The WWII Jewish Holocaust is not the only terrible event that is a genocide. There were many before then and many after
obamanut2012
Mar 28
#76
The U.S. has to stop sending money to Israel used to purchase munitions for its massive killing of innocent people,
Squaredeal
Mar 28
#86
Do you know Netanyahu has used the term "river to sea" also as to his aim in the region.
brush
Mar 28
#102
Like "apartheid", "anti-Semitism" and so many others in order to fit their "needs".
Behind the Aegis
Mar 28
#118
Section 101 (starting at p. 59) of South Africa ICJ case extensively addresses intent (linked).
David__77
Mar 28
#144