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EllieBC

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88. Kids with IEPs were allowed back

Sun Mar 24, 2024, 07:15 PM

Mar 24

by mid April 2020 where I am. I know because I have kids with IEPs. And thank goodness for that.

I don’t think anyone doubted that long school closures would be disastrous for kids who need extra support or for families who weren’t able to homeschool or the working poor.

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What the Data Says About Pandemic School Closures, Four Years Later [View all] Celerity Mar 24 OP

I don't believe that this one example demonstrates that remote learning is... Hugin Mar 24 #1

There is another aspect to this Shermann Mar 24 #25

That's an interesting expansion... Hugin Mar 24 #27

Online learning for adults is entirely different for children Yavin4 Mar 24 #59

I don't think you can draw a hard categorical line like that Shermann Mar 24 #76

Thank You WiVoter Mar 24 #56

I am grateful my grandchildren Tickle Mar 24 #2

Yes only closed a month for our area. jimfields33 Mar 24 #30

Also a nutmegger here 90-percent Mar 24 #34

Then we are neighbors Tickle Mar 24 #39

ma. 90-percent Mar 24 #81

You have your own slice of heaven Tickle Mar 24 #89

Schools did what they thought best at the time. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #3

Many schools were already underfunded & crowded. Attilatheblond Mar 24 #72

I don't think the effect on the spread of the pandemic is knowable Shermann Mar 24 #4

I agree. It's impossible to know what the alternative would have caused underpants Mar 24 #15

Good point. Also, broadband availability is unequal. yardwork Mar 24 #19

Question how many senior citizens and other aged infirmed people are still alive because kids weren't bringing home.... usaf-vet Mar 24 #78

Fascinating malaise Mar 24 #5

It seems pretty obvious: the longer kids aren't learning in school or at home, they further they fall behind. sop Mar 24 #6

This smacks of "motivated" research. plimsoll Mar 24 #32

Good points. sop Mar 24 #45

Around Here, They've Caught Up... ProfessorGAC Mar 24 #7

Great response. plimsoll Mar 24 #33

+1. and thanks stopdiggin Mar 24 #57

For Many, It Was A Choice Between WiVoter Mar 24 #8

So, when I go to work today ismnotwasm Mar 24 #9

"The shutdowns in America didn't work because there was never full compliance. Ever." Hugin Mar 24 #17

Esactly. The shutdowns were a joke. We should have really shut down, completely for a few weeks and ended the spread. lindysalsagal Mar 24 #20

We would have if Hillary had been Prez. Nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 24 #49

I doubt it. Mariana Mar 24 #60

We never would have ended the spread. Ace Rothstein Mar 24 #80

I agree. MichMan Mar 24 #83

This is the correct response to the article. Remote learning does not directly correlate with self-controlled isolation. keopeli Mar 24 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author keopeli Mar 24 #41

Except for that killing teachers problem JT45242 Mar 24 #10

Exactly. tanyev Mar 24 #28

Bingo! nt Quixote1818 Mar 24 #77

I serve on a School Board. COVID had huge impacts on academic success and learning skills brooklynite Mar 24 #11

It was unavoidable. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #36

Do you factor in dead students with 0 scores? HariSeldon Mar 24 #44

Where did I say this was a bad choice? brooklynite Mar 24 #47

What about the deaths of educators pressured into working during a lethal viral pandemic? Timeflyer Mar 24 #12

Extremely little coverage of teacher losses. Tells you how much we don't value our teachers. lindysalsagal Mar 24 #21

Could not agree more senseandsensibility Mar 24 #73

They should add to the charts the in-school students who got sick and the in-school students who died. Liberal In Texas Mar 24 #13

That remote learning didn't happen in a vacuum, though. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 24 #14

The teachers felt very vulnerable. yardwork Mar 24 #16

How do we pay and support them better? limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #48

A lot of these "public health and education experts" are people like Ron Desantis and Dr. Joseph Ladapo. sop Mar 24 #18

These averages are misleading: There are always students who can just "do the math" with or without teachers lindysalsagal Mar 24 #22

"Trust the science" Sympthsical Mar 24 #23

You have thick skin to not to be a little freaked by exponential viral spread with overcapacity emergency rooms. nt Shermann Mar 24 #26

I'm not talking about the early stages Sympthsical Mar 24 #29

Some right-wingers were calling to "let Covid rip" at the time. Shermann Mar 24 #37

are you including the closing of schools stopdiggin Mar 24 #66

what magic talismans are you referring to? ret5hd Mar 24 #31

Not at all. plimsoll Mar 24 #42

The closures in Spring 2020 were probably sufficient Prairie Gates Mar 24 #24

A million dead. Where are the Nuremberg style trials for that? ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 24 #50

And we must NEVER forget that Trump's administration threw out the book Attilatheblond Mar 24 #75

No compassion, no imagination Bad Thoughts Mar 24 #35

I'd agree, but there wasn't much relief on the state mandates. plimsoll Mar 24 #43

"Teachers and administrators were unwilling to do the work WiVoter Mar 24 #55

Thank you snpsmom Mar 24 #79

We simply don't know that closing schools did nothing pinkstarburst Mar 24 #38

Public health measures in the pandemic tried to balance competing risks, each unknown. hay rick Mar 24 #53

On this Rez GusBob Mar 24 #46

A few thoughts. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #51

"did throttle the rate of viral spread" No. It did not. Yavin4 Mar 24 #61

Well, I'm hard-pressed to see how you arrive at that conclusion. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #65

New Zealand had a high rate of spread as well as Singapore even with Draconian mitigation measures. Yavin4 Mar 24 #69

And the spread lagged behind other nations by significant margins. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #74

The virus still spread as it is spreading today. Yavin4 Mar 24 #84

SMH. limbicnuminousity Mar 24 #86

simply doesn't fit the facts stopdiggin Mar 24 #70

From the article Yavin4 Mar 24 #85

It seemed obvious and I advocated for just redoing the Covid two years and every educator said that would be wrong. dutch777 Mar 24 #52

My daughter lost 5th and 6th grade to remote learning NickB79 Mar 24 #54

Hmm - "experts say, extended closures did little to stop the spread of Covid" isn't backed up with much muriel_volestrangler Mar 24 #58

And even if children were found to be less likely to become seriously ill, their parents and grandparents Scrivener7 Mar 24 #63

Turns out "if the transmissibility of subclinical infections is low" was a big "if" muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #90

Two thoughts: First, on the medical side: until there was a vaccine, COVID Scrivener7 Mar 24 #62

I'm glad we're learning from the mistakes made during COVID so we're much better prepared when the next beaglelover Mar 24 #64

This is dramatic oversimplification angrychair Mar 24 #67

Exactly, I skimmed the full report and it left me with many questions JCMach1 Mar 24 #71

The educational establishment are the ones that consider themselves as the experts MichMan Mar 24 #82

It would be nice if there were even a pretense of caring about the teachers dsc Mar 24 #68

What about all the people that had to come to work daily because their job was deemed essential ? MichMan Mar 24 #87

Kids with IEPs were allowed back EllieBC Mar 24 #88