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RSherman

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13. "So help me God"
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 24

Of course they had to throw that in the oath.

I'm reading The Founding Myth by Andrew Seidel and Ch. 23 is about oaths.
George Washington's ended with "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution." Period.
The words "so help me God" do not appear in the oath prescribed in Article 2 of the Constitution.
The Constitution prohibits religious tests for public office.
On April 27, 1789, the House passed its first bill, a godless oath of office. Five days later, the Senate did the same.
No evidence suggests that Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, or Adams added "God" to the oath.
Chester Arthur had a private inauguration, at which he did not say "God". However, at a second inauguration, he added "God", a public reenactment done for show, strategic piety.

Boy oy boy, does "strategic piety" describe all the fake "God" stuff coming out of the mouths of Republican legislators.

"In God We Trust" was added to coins in 1863, the height of the Civil War, when there was a lot of religious fervor.

"Under God" was added to the Pledge in 1954, by Eisenhower, a Republican.

"The push to add “under God” to the pledge gained momentum during the second Red Scare, a period when U.S. politicians were keen to assert the moral superiority of U.S. capitalism over Soviet communism, which many conservatives regarded as 'godless'.”

Nixon was the first president to close a speech with "God bless America".

Secret Service oath [View all] birdographer Mar 24 OP
All former presidents get SS protection. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #1
Will that include him multigraincracker Mar 24 #2
We never had an ex president in jail before. We Emile Mar 24 #6
No, the most logical thing is that Secret Service would replace prison guards. brooklynite Mar 24 #10
Or just deputize prison guards into the Secret Service C_U_L8R Mar 24 #12
I'm guessing the SS has a different training protocol. brooklynite Mar 24 #15
Oh please. As if SS agents would be living with him in jail NanaCat Mar 24 #21
No. 2naSalit Mar 24 #14
That's the tradition, yeah jmowreader Mar 24 #16
Yes, I know birdographer Mar 24 #17
They go where they're assigned. It's not their job NanaCat Mar 24 #22
No judgments birdographer Mar 24 #32
Exactly the same oath evert Federal agent takes n/t CanonRay Mar 24 #3
The oath every federal employee takes NanaCat Mar 24 #23
I suggest we change the role that secret service agents have... Think. Again. Mar 24 #4
I highly reccomend reading Roman History Sympthsical Mar 24 #18
As most adults know... Think. Again. Mar 24 #19
Still a hard no Sympthsical Mar 24 #20
I don't agree... Think. Again. Mar 24 #28
Are you saying he shouldn't be protected from "harm"? brooklynite Mar 24 #5
Finger crossed, maybe ? republianmushroom Mar 24 #7
As a side note, what do you get when you mix Lassie with a Pit Bull? Uncle Joe Mar 24 #8
Oaths aren't magic. They don't actually bind or guide behavior. RockRaven Mar 24 #9
What evidence do you have that any Secret Service agent in Trump's detail has violated their oath? brooklynite Mar 24 #11
"So help me God" RSherman Mar 24 #13
No one's ever had to add the G-d part to the oath NanaCat Mar 24 #24
That's good RSherman Mar 24 #25
he's not going to jail NoRethugFriends Mar 24 #26
Just wondering if TFG was IMPEACHED, like he should have been bluestarone Mar 24 #27
Send the rat to ADX Florence, it should be safe & need minimal Secret Service guards. He's cost us enough already Attilatheblond Mar 24 #29
RSO rso Mar 24 #30
Still trying to reconcile that oath with not alerting the FBI and homeland pre Jan6 JT45242 Mar 24 #31
Apparently many government staff also sign another oath that isn't public. erronis Mar 24 #33
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