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In reply to the discussion: Breaking - the US has called for an immediate cease fire in Gaza [View all]CincyDem
(6,416 posts)When you propose that the Palestinian people are under a similar horror as the Jewish were in Germany then [referring to WWII Germany]. That invites a comparison and the most objective measure is the numbers - as gruesome as that maybe.
Best measure I find for Gaza fatalities to date is about 30,000 over the past 5 1/2 months. Lets ignore that this likely includes Hamas fighters embedded in the civilian population. 30k is about 1.5% of the population of Gaza.
At its peak in 1945, Germany would consider 30k dead jews as a bad week. Think about that
as upset as the world is about the past 5 1/2 month response to Hamas terrorist attack of 10/7 and their continued hostage holding
imagine what it would take to kill 30k Palestinians in 7 days. For the record, once Germany got their camps and rail lines running, Jews were being killed at the rate of 40k per week
for 3 years. 6,000 systemically killed every day on average for almost 1,100 consecutive days. But thats just an average
peak holocaust in the summer of 1942 was 15,000 per day for almost 4 months. Ovens and gas chambers working 24/7. When it was all over, Europes Jewish population dropped from 9 million to just over 3 million
4 years to kill 66% of European Jews.
Wrap your mind around that
as ugly as Gaza is
it was 2 days work for the Germans when they were at their best (or worst, I guess).
Just wanted to offer up some objective data to help you consider the difference between whats happening to Palestinians in Gaza vs. Jews in Germany. That doesnt make Gaza nothing but its sure not Germany and Im not sharing this to poo-poo the casualties in Gaza. But lets be realistic here - there is no similarity between the two circumstances.
Im not even going to wade into the land question except to say youre right
Gaza is prime seaside real estate (as I think Jared recently pointed out). Over the past 30-40 years, billions and billions of dollars of foreign aid have been poured into Gaza. If the Palestinian leadership spent that money on development for their region vs. building terrorist capability
sheesh
Gaza would be the fing Riviera of the Middle East. But that wasnt their priority.