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12. Correct, but pray tell what would it accomplish?

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Vasectomy bill proposed in response to Louisiana's abortion ban [View all] Nevilledog Mar 21 OP

I'm not a philosopher... Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #1

You're not a philosopher, but are you a woman? intheflow Mar 21 #2

+1 Omnipresent Mar 21 #27

I agree, let's do more. Ban viagra and mandate vasectomies. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #30

Forced sterilization is unethical. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #32

Then a rapist might think twice before acting SouthernDem4ever Mar 21 #37

Proponents of the death penalty use the same argumentation. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #41

Not a death penalty... charliea Mar 21 #49

Vasectomies are reversible. LisaM Mar 21 #46

And if a wrongful conviction is never overturned? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #48

Yes, it's still reversable. intheflow Mar 21 #53

Oh, okay. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #56

I remember that wise saying. intheflow Mar 21 #65

Where in the galloping fuck did I ever intimate that sex offenders should be tolerated? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #67

Men rape women. intheflow Mar 21 #71

I would call it forced birth control, not sterilization. LisaM Mar 21 #59

They are sometimes reversible . . . markpkessinger Mar 21 #75

Okay, then. They can sue the government for wrongful punishment if they're actually not guilty of rape. intheflow Mar 21 #81

try carrying a baby to et tu Mar 21 #47

THIS. calimary Mar 21 #63

Then the few men that caught, tried and convicted as sex offender will have to have vasectomies. intheflow Mar 21 #50

If it does, then don't commit rape in Louisiana? Crunchy Frog Mar 21 #78

Forced pregnancy for a girl or woman is unethical. Bluepinky Mar 22 #91

And what about recitivism of rapists? Ilsa Mar 22 #92

Best post of the day. Stop rape and incest, or sterilize sex criminals and allow abortion. marble falls Mar 21 #52

I agree it doesn't go far enough. soldierant Mar 21 #64

It doesn't go far enough by a long shot. Alliepoo Mar 21 #82

Men won't care about women losing bodily autonomy until they're also affected. Nevilledog Mar 21 #4

A vasectomy doesn't have any impact on one's ability to engage in sexual assault. brooklynite Mar 21 #8

Correct, but pray tell what would it accomplish? boston bean Mar 21 #12

It would protect women from being forced to give birth Demobrat Mar 21 #35

Post #7 has a solution for that Hekate Mar 21 #13

Yeah, but the raped woman doesn't then have to carry his baby MadameButterfly Mar 21 #23

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #36

While I'm not a fan of this I do like the idea of vasectomies for all over the are of 13. Hope22 Mar 21 #10

Red states like Louisiana not only want to force birth even when it KILLS the woman, they also.. Hekate Mar 21 #11

How can they shut down travel to another state for an abortion? How would they know? CTyankee Mar 21 #54

Texas passed a snitch law straight away. Then there's a bunch of redneck cops in my own California Hekate Mar 21 #70

Was the Civil War abolishing slavery another two wrongs don't make a right? Irish_Dem Mar 21 #31

That's not a great analogy. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #33

Changing my question so you can win is a weak argument. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #34

Demonstrating why your argument was weak was weak argumentation on my part? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #38

That's a weak question. intheflow Mar 21 #66

It is in fact a perfect analogy. I'm sorry you have not been paying attention over the past few years. Hekate Mar 21 #74

Why change the subject. Hope22 Mar 21 #57

any politician that votes for an abortion ban should be sterilized..... moonshinegnomie Mar 21 #43

Twice! Hope22 Mar 21 #58

What part of offering a bill as a protest don't you understand? xmas74 Mar 21 #80

Not a fan. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #3

It won't pass, but maybe it will make some men consider what it's like to lose bodily autonomy. Nevilledog Mar 21 #5

The bill is only for sexual predators, and while that's a legal designation, there are a lot of men out there who WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #6

I disagree. Nevilledog Mar 21 #9

Do they ever connect that with other people losing their autonomy? or is it only for themselves? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #14

I've seen both. "Men should be inviolate" vs. "I've done nothing wrong so it doesn't apply" Nevilledog Mar 21 #18

My question is, do either of those thoughts get them to "OH! I guess it's wrong if we do it to women, too, and I will WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #19

Not usually. The misogyny is strong and the cognitive dissonance is stronger. Nevilledog Mar 21 #20

Yeah so in the end that's why I'm not a fan of these kinds of bills/sentiments. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #21

I understand. Nevilledog Mar 21 #24

Still, the statement is worth making MadameButterfly Mar 21 #25

Which makes it even crazier. Hope22 Mar 21 #17

Some people -- men-people -- have no idea just how angry we are at being tossed back 200 years Hekate Mar 21 #15

Not far enough. limbicnuminousity Mar 21 #7

Rape anyone you lose your penis! Nittersing Mar 21 #16

I would think castration would be the route to take. LiberalFighter Mar 21 #22

Castrates can still rape. limbicnuminousity Mar 21 #28

Less likely to rape if chemical castration is used. pazzyanne Mar 21 #60

Add blow jobs............................ Lovie777 Mar 21 #26

So that means guys in LA can go out and continue no_hypocrisy Mar 21 #29

Of course not, but it's a start. SouthernDem4ever Mar 21 #40

There is no law that prevents rape Mossfern Mar 21 #55

I just want to say that I am embarrassed by the lack of understanding and empathy shown out here. Hope22 Mar 21 #62

patriarchy seems to be et tu Mar 21 #73

I don't know why it surprises me but US women are in real trouble. Hope22 Mar 21 #79

Yeah, this whole thread has me wondering about all the men I know. intheflow Mar 21 #85

Hmmmm... Hope22 Mar 21 #86

You too, Hope! intheflow Mar 21 #89

The Dobbs decision opened this door nuxvomica Mar 21 #39

Thank you for this. What many don't seem to consider... littlemissmartypants Mar 21 #61

By that logic, perhaps an amendment is in order. I'm thinking that if a man wants viagra, PatrickforB Mar 21 #42

Make it applicable to all men as potential accomplices in crime bucolic_frolic Mar 21 #44

good idea bdamomma Mar 21 #45

Disarm the rapist. OMGWTF Mar 21 #51

*snip* I see what you did there LOL Takket Mar 21 #68

A guillotine-style chastity belt would take care of things. Talitha Mar 21 #69

Except they're so damn uncomfortable! intheflow Mar 21 #77

As long as the punishment is equal for both sexes. roamer65 Mar 21 #72

Think long and hard before you decide to employ doctors as agents of the penal state . . . markpkessinger Mar 21 #76

As opposed to Drs performing c-sections on abortable fetuses without consent? Nevilledog Mar 21 #83

A review of instances of forced sterilization shows intheflow Mar 21 #84

Do you really believe Louisiana won't use this for ethnic sterilization? ripcord Mar 21 #87

Do you really this has a snowball's chance in hell of passing in Louisiana? intheflow Mar 21 #88

This won't protect her daughter at a party with a future Supreme Court Justice! Hope22 Mar 22 #90