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Sky Jewels

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46. Right.

Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:23 PM

Mar 21

And if their deity is omnipotent, that would mean that humans get punished taking actions that were orchestrated by their cruel god. They have no choice in how they behave, yet it's their fault if they "sin."

This omnipotent god causes or enables untold suffering -- wars, genocides, pandemics, diseases, natural disasters, famines, on and on...yet humans are supposed to worship this supernatural monster. ... No thanks.

And if this sky wizard "gave humans free will," then why pray to change anything? God is obviously sitting on "his" hands.

And if the grand poohbah deity has a grand plan, then why pray to change anything? God is just gonna follow the master plan.

None of it makes a shred of sense. I'm glad that Asshole-in-the-Sky doesn't actually exist.

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If Gaza's Children Starve, Israel Will Lose Its Moral Legitimacy Forever [View all] Nanjeanne Mar 21 OP

I think we are past "if they starve". SYFROYH Mar 21 #1

We might be past edhopper Mar 21 #2

In my mind, they have already lost that moral legitimacy. lastlib Mar 21 #5

I completely agree. liberalla Mar 21 #22

Yes true - but what will happen is even worse. The article's facts and figures are staggering. Nanjeanne Mar 21 #3

I am not sure how this is happening with so much food aide going into Gaza. jimfields33 Mar 21 #27

It's hard to deliver supplies in an active war zone. cab67 Mar 21 #42

Israel restricts the aid. For instance, scissors are "dual use", so they turned away truck with them in medical supplies muriel_volestrangler Mar 21 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #57

It isn't very much food going in. I read today that before the war, 500 trucks a day DemocraticPatriot Mar 21 #59

I'm curious how this is "unprecedented" EX500rider Mar 21 #4

Its unprecedented for people that live in the shelter of the U.S. nt LexVegas Mar 21 #6

sort of. cab67 Mar 21 #43

All part of the antisemitic narrative Zeitghost Mar 21 #8

Anti-starvation is not antisemitism. ramen Mar 21 #13

Yes, being anti-cruelty and starvation has nothing to do with PatSeg Mar 21 #31

How is starving kids in Gaza "the antisemitic narrative"? obamanut2012 Mar 21 #18

I don't see a link between the two either. Dave Bowman Mar 21 #28

The amount of bullshit like this, "speaking out against the starvation of kids means you hate Jews" is Sky Jewels Mar 21 #39

When did I make the claim that it was? Zeitghost Mar 21 #55

What Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #19

Oh Please.... Nutty Putty Mar 21 #34

The war and starvation in Sudan is another humanitarian crisis that is staggering. Humanitarian Nanjeanne Mar 21 #10

Our allies are supposed to better. IMO: Israel had/has become our bullying little TeamProg Mar 21 #14

The US isn't shipping weapons to Sudan on an emergency basis. David__77 Mar 21 #20

" simply because aid is not allowed in by Israel." EX500rider Mar 21 #56

Please provide a link for 140 trucks per day. Previously someone gave some indormation Nanjeanne Mar 21 #58

How about the UN? EX500rider Mar 21 #61

The situation is appalling. Every minute, every hour, it is getting worse," Nanjeanne Mar 21 #62

You said "simply because aid is not allowed in by Israel." I said up to 140+ aid trucks have been arriving every day EX500rider Mar 21 #64

Okey dokey. A distribution problem. Got it. Cogat says lots of trucks!!!! Nanjeanne Mar 21 #68

Israel has now lost all moral legitimacy for me. Lonestarblue Mar 21 #7

Uh. I think it's the recent slaughter of a generation of Israeli's in the 1940's that allows them to finally jimfields33 Mar 21 #29

So because shitty things were done to them, they get to Cuthbert Allgood Mar 21 #60

There no rationalizing with Hamas. jimfields33 Mar 21 #66

Well past that point. Autumn Mar 21 #9

History will not be kind. nt TeamProg Mar 21 #11

Moral what? malaise Mar 21 #12

I wonder if anyone remembers how Israel came to be. Zilli Mar 21 #15

That version of history is not correct. Prior to the British Mandate the Ottoman Empire had complete control over that JohnSJ Mar 21 #23

President Truman was BlueMTexpat Mar 21 #24

I sincerely hope that Mr. Lucy didn't have a long "teaching" career. Google could have really helped him out, or, if TeamProg Mar 21 #45

The Brits have been stealing other people's land for centuries malaise Mar 21 #52

They lost legitimacy when Bosnia slaughtered Muslims in the 80s RainCaster Mar 21 #16

Apparently, "never again" does not apply to Palestinians. Earth-shine Mar 21 #17

Ridiculous twisting. TheKentuckian Mar 21 #47

"Never again" needs to apply to everyone. Earth-shine Mar 21 #48

Actually, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Jews BlueMTexpat Mar 21 #21

There's a reason Bill Clinton never used the word "genocide" in the context of Bosnia or Rwanda. cab67 Mar 21 #44

They already have been. That train has long left the station. onecaliberal Mar 21 #25

In my heart they already did that. flying_wahini Mar 21 #26

In reality as well. onecaliberal Mar 21 #33

Israel is becoming a pariah state... Dave Bowman Mar 21 #30

Both sides claim to have God on their side and believe that killing each other is righteous. Ping Tung Mar 21 #32

Or better yet, stop believing in non-existent magical beings Sky Jewels Mar 21 #36

I've never undertood why people would select a God that requires that they "fear" it. Ping Tung Mar 21 #40

Right. Sky Jewels Mar 21 #46

Few religious people "select" their gods. Mariana Mar 21 #50

I was born a Roman Catholic but not baptized. Ping Tung Mar 21 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #63

They don't believe in the same God JI7 Mar 21 #65

OK. If they're not the same god which one is the One True God? Ping Tung Mar 21 #67

"If" they starve? TOO LATE. Many are starving. Some have died from it. Sky Jewels Mar 21 #35

Europe had restricted Jewish people to ghettoes back in the day IronLionZion Mar 21 #37

Israel will ForgedCrank Mar 21 #38

"People keep falling for it" Sympthsical Mar 21 #49

Gaza is being turned to rubble -- and Jared Kushner thinks its waterfront is a 'very valuable' real-estate prospect SARose Mar 21 #41

"Moral Legitimacy" is not something Nation-States possess. maxsolomon Mar 21 #51