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ramen

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13. Anti-starvation is not antisemitism.

Thu Mar 21, 2024, 09:39 AM

Mar 21

I am not in favor of starving any population to death. That really should not be a divisive position. It was monstrous when Stalin did it. What is happening in Yemen or Sudan is monstrous. I don't think starving civilians is in any way reasonable at any time for any reason.

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If Gaza's Children Starve, Israel Will Lose Its Moral Legitimacy Forever [View all] Nanjeanne Mar 21 OP

I think we are past "if they starve". SYFROYH Mar 21 #1

We might be past edhopper Mar 21 #2

In my mind, they have already lost that moral legitimacy. lastlib Mar 21 #5

I completely agree. liberalla Mar 21 #22

Yes true - but what will happen is even worse. The article's facts and figures are staggering. Nanjeanne Mar 21 #3

I am not sure how this is happening with so much food aide going into Gaza. jimfields33 Mar 21 #27

It's hard to deliver supplies in an active war zone. cab67 Mar 21 #42

Israel restricts the aid. For instance, scissors are "dual use", so they turned away truck with them in medical supplies muriel_volestrangler Mar 21 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #57

It isn't very much food going in. I read today that before the war, 500 trucks a day DemocraticPatriot Mar 21 #59

I'm curious how this is "unprecedented" EX500rider Mar 21 #4

Its unprecedented for people that live in the shelter of the U.S. nt LexVegas Mar 21 #6

sort of. cab67 Mar 21 #43

All part of the antisemitic narrative Zeitghost Mar 21 #8

Anti-starvation is not antisemitism. ramen Mar 21 #13

Yes, being anti-cruelty and starvation has nothing to do with PatSeg Mar 21 #31

How is starving kids in Gaza "the antisemitic narrative"? obamanut2012 Mar 21 #18

I don't see a link between the two either. Dave Bowman Mar 21 #28

The amount of bullshit like this, "speaking out against the starvation of kids means you hate Jews" is Sky Jewels Mar 21 #39

When did I make the claim that it was? Zeitghost Mar 21 #55

What Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #19

Oh Please.... Nutty Putty Mar 21 #34

The war and starvation in Sudan is another humanitarian crisis that is staggering. Humanitarian Nanjeanne Mar 21 #10

Our allies are supposed to better. IMO: Israel had/has become our bullying little TeamProg Mar 21 #14

The US isn't shipping weapons to Sudan on an emergency basis. David__77 Mar 21 #20

" simply because aid is not allowed in by Israel." EX500rider Mar 21 #56

Please provide a link for 140 trucks per day. Previously someone gave some indormation Nanjeanne Mar 21 #58

How about the UN? EX500rider Mar 21 #61

The situation is appalling. Every minute, every hour, it is getting worse," Nanjeanne Mar 21 #62

You said "simply because aid is not allowed in by Israel." I said up to 140+ aid trucks have been arriving every day EX500rider Mar 21 #64

Okey dokey. A distribution problem. Got it. Cogat says lots of trucks!!!! Nanjeanne Mar 21 #68

Israel has now lost all moral legitimacy for me. Lonestarblue Mar 21 #7

Uh. I think it's the recent slaughter of a generation of Israeli's in the 1940's that allows them to finally jimfields33 Mar 21 #29

So because shitty things were done to them, they get to Cuthbert Allgood Mar 21 #60

There no rationalizing with Hamas. jimfields33 Mar 21 #66

Well past that point. Autumn Mar 21 #9

History will not be kind. nt TeamProg Mar 21 #11

Moral what? malaise Mar 21 #12

I wonder if anyone remembers how Israel came to be. Zilli Mar 21 #15

That version of history is not correct. Prior to the British Mandate the Ottoman Empire had complete control over that JohnSJ Mar 21 #23

President Truman was BlueMTexpat Mar 21 #24

I sincerely hope that Mr. Lucy didn't have a long "teaching" career. Google could have really helped him out, or, if TeamProg Mar 21 #45

The Brits have been stealing other people's land for centuries malaise Mar 21 #52

They lost legitimacy when Bosnia slaughtered Muslims in the 80s RainCaster Mar 21 #16

Apparently, "never again" does not apply to Palestinians. Earth-shine Mar 21 #17

Ridiculous twisting. TheKentuckian Mar 21 #47

"Never again" needs to apply to everyone. Earth-shine Mar 21 #48

Actually, Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Jews BlueMTexpat Mar 21 #21

There's a reason Bill Clinton never used the word "genocide" in the context of Bosnia or Rwanda. cab67 Mar 21 #44

They already have been. That train has long left the station. onecaliberal Mar 21 #25

In my heart they already did that. flying_wahini Mar 21 #26

In reality as well. onecaliberal Mar 21 #33

Israel is becoming a pariah state... Dave Bowman Mar 21 #30

Both sides claim to have God on their side and believe that killing each other is righteous. Ping Tung Mar 21 #32

Or better yet, stop believing in non-existent magical beings Sky Jewels Mar 21 #36

I've never undertood why people would select a God that requires that they "fear" it. Ping Tung Mar 21 #40

Right. Sky Jewels Mar 21 #46

Few religious people "select" their gods. Mariana Mar 21 #50

I was born a Roman Catholic but not baptized. Ping Tung Mar 21 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Mar 21 #63

They don't believe in the same God JI7 Mar 21 #65

OK. If they're not the same god which one is the One True God? Ping Tung Mar 21 #67

"If" they starve? TOO LATE. Many are starving. Some have died from it. Sky Jewels Mar 21 #35

Europe had restricted Jewish people to ghettoes back in the day IronLionZion Mar 21 #37

Israel will ForgedCrank Mar 21 #38

"People keep falling for it" Sympthsical Mar 21 #49

Gaza is being turned to rubble -- and Jared Kushner thinks its waterfront is a 'very valuable' real-estate prospect SARose Mar 21 #41

"Moral Legitimacy" is not something Nation-States possess. maxsolomon Mar 21 #51