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In reply to the discussion: Justice for JFK [View all]stopbush
(24,396 posts)Which means it's not the veracity of the information that matters to you, but whether or not you found the way the info was delivered to be acceptable.
Yet, others might be suspect of information that is delivered coated in honey. You know, things like "I won't raise your taxes but I'll still hand out money while balancing the budget." For someone other than you, a down-n-dirty view may be their preference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're saying that it's on the messenger to adapt their way of delivering the message to their audience. How does one do that in a forum like DU?
My experience at DU has been that most people can handle the truth. Most people would prefer to learn that Barkey the Dog is indeed dead, rather than being told he was shipped off to the dog farm where he can run free with the other dogs.
Do I really need to start from the position of, "you're right, your Grandma is in heaven, and she's looking down on you with love," if we're heading into a discussion about why I'm an atheist?
As far as bullying people and winning converts, I have no desire to win converts. All I'm doing is providing an evidential counter to the flights of fancy that typically occur in these JFK threads. It's enough work providing the correctives to worry about winning converts. If I come off as being bullying, well, that can happen when you find yourself outnumbered by a factor of 20 as happens whenever this topic comes up. I write one post and it garners 5 or 6 responses. Not because I'm some great writer, but because the views I'm expressing upset the apple cart of received opinion. I make an attempt to respond to as many of the serious posts that come up (like yours), but it's yoeman's work. If I get brash on occasion it's because I'm not taking the time to polish each response like a precious jewel. I'm pumping out counters as quickly and as accurately as I can, because I believe that a fellow DUer deserves a response if they take the time to engage in a conversation via a cogent rejoinder to one of my posts. Drive-by posts? Not so much. I tend to ignore them.
I am passionate about this subject because I am a great admirer of JFK, and it pisses me off to see people with no demonstrated knowledge of the assassination making excuses for that little shit Oswald, aka the pissant who killed him.
It's very difficult to fight the received opinion of the vast majority of people who don't believe the facts in this case, or who more typically have not a clue as to the facts in this case. That difficulty is exacerbated by the fact that 75% of Americans who believe the JFK CTs think that they're in a minority(!), and a minority that is fighting against some evil force in their efforts to get the "truth" out about the assassination. They firmly believe that they're in possession of some hidden truth, when the fact is that they're just going along with the crowd that got their info on the JFK killing from Oliver Stone's fiction. How else to explain the almost verbatim regurgitation of examples of Stone's admitted use of creative license as a film director being stated as fact? Most people are surprised to learn that within a few months after the assassination, the vast majority of Americans believed that a conspiracy lay behind the assassination. They are surprised to learn that most Americans have never believed the WCR (not that they've read it). Even LBJ went to his grave believing the Russians were involved in the killing.
The fact is that the CTists have won! Most Americans believe the CT crapola and always have. They believe it without question and without having done a scintilla of work on their own to determine what's true and what's false. They even believe Stone's film is history, a film that takes myriad contradictory CT theories and weaves them into ONE unholy mess.
I'm not posting to win fans or get applause or to join in the mutual and self-congratulatory CT masturbation that always accompanies threads on this subject. I'm posting because JFK's memory deserves having the CTs challenged, while the coddling of that shit Oswald needs to be shot down tout suite.
You're welcome to your version of the truth. As we used to say in NYC, that and a subway token will get you downtown. If you don't care for my posts, don't read them. It's simple.