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EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
42. It's really not your business.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 05:04 AM
Feb 26

No, it's not much of a stretch. And, you're not thinking straight. You just want to jump in to defend what the IDF is doing.

No one is more protective than I am. I learned Hebrew 40 years ago, studied Judaism, and did comparative religions back when I gave a damn. None of that matters now. I am a little more circumspect, pay a little more attention to the fuller picture. My previous comments on the situation were completely sympathetic to Israel.

But now, they seem to have lost direction. It isn't a matter that there is collateral damage. It is because their stated plans for Gaza after the war is over indicate that they are going to take over Palestinian territories with the intent of repopulation with Israelis. This will only lead to even more violence. It makes no sense, and most of the civilized world is of the opinion that the two state solution is the pathway to take.

No one is telling Israel to shake hands with the Palestinians. They can hate each others guts, just so long as there is no war going on. If they want my tax dollar, they need to express an intent consistent with a desire to end the war without occupation. Period.

I don't give a fuck what you think. If you think I was not horrified by what Hamas did, you are wrong. I have been consistent with my opinion that Hamas has got to go, the same as those stupid Houthis have got to quit what they are doing.

Jews suffered greatly during WW2, not by fighting, but through being vilified and murdered for just their nationality, much like they are now doing to the Palestinians. Sorry if you don't understand that. It's one thing to fight because they were attacked, which they had an absolute right to do, but it's another to plan to remove, annihilate, and reduce whole populations who have no place to go. Look how important it was to Jews to have their own home. How quickly they have forgotten.

I fully support the extermination of Hamas in Gaza and the WB. But, that's not what I am hearing from Netanyahu's cabinet. You don't build 3300 new houses for Israelis in territory reserved for Palestinians. That's not a reasonable response. That's territory grabbing. That's theft.

I'm outta this thread, so the floor is yours.

As You Can See, Sir, A Lot Of People Won't Take A Square Look At What The Fighting Arm Of The Cause They Support Does The Magistrate Feb 24 #1
Denialists will be along shortly Hekate Feb 24 #4
We have seen this since October 7, 2023. yardwork Mar 2 #52
And just as common.... Behind the Aegis Mar 2 #57
I've seen the same. It's very obvious. yardwork Mar 2 #59
K&R betsuni Feb 24 #2
MONSTERS 👹 👺 Cha Feb 24 #3
KnR Hekate Feb 24 #5
That's unforgivable. Iggo Feb 24 #6
Absolutely Horrifying! Inhumane and really fucking sick. Those who committed such atrocities should be held TeamProg Feb 24 #7
They have been used as human shields. There was a ceasefire on October 7 question everything Feb 24 #9
"Human shields " is not an excuse for a supposedly civilized society to attack the innocent. Makes a TeamProg Feb 25 #20
History will not be kind to the Hamas defender that has no problem with rape as a weapon of fucking war. SoFlaBro Feb 25 #28
What's this magical war you can tell us about where no civilians died? EX500rider Feb 25 #37
You're Doing Better Than Most, Sir The Magistrate Feb 24 #10
I'm not a general, neither are you. I'm just a normal unpretentious person. I'm not pretending or TeamProg Feb 25 #21
A Frank Confession Of Ignorance Is Honorable, At Least The Magistrate Feb 25 #24
Your post was interesting EndlessWire Feb 25 #31
So Your View Is Israel Is Engaged In Genocide The Magistrate Feb 25 #34
You are very judgmental. EndlessWire Feb 25 #38
I Certainly Am The Magistrate Feb 25 #39
Have you read your comments before posting? question everything Feb 26 #41
It's really not your business. EndlessWire Feb 26 #42
You are now accepting sarisataka Feb 24 #11
Could we have defeated Germany edhopper Feb 24 #12
Seriously? Really? there is NO comparison! Hitler was armed with $ and innovation, the Nazis invaded Poland, TeamProg Feb 24 #14
So how does Isreal edhopper Feb 24 #15
So Your Solution Is Arm Hamas To The Teeth And See How They Do Then The Magistrate Feb 24 #16
Not at all , those are your words. IF Hamas had that kind of firepower there would not have been an occupation, TeamProg Feb 25 #22
These Are Your Words, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #25
The US burned or suffocated 100,000 overnight in Tokyo lostnfound Feb 25 #29
Really? EndlessWire Feb 25 #32
Because their fathers, sons, brothers, grandsons, cousins friends and neighbors went out and savaged many innocent WDLAL Feb 24 #17
1,200 vs 30,000. Yep, that's about right. Got it. TeamProg Feb 25 #23
Sometimes I Do Despair, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #26
History will not be kind to those that sweep aside sexual assault, rape, and slicing babies' throats. SoFlaBro Feb 25 #27
Countries don't generally respond to an attack by setting out to kill an equal number of people. WDLAL Feb 25 #30
Well, we all get that EndlessWire Feb 25 #33
The poster to whom I responded doesn't seem to get that. WDLAL Feb 25 #40
Now, convince Hamas of this... yagotme Feb 26 #45
The hostages have not been returned, and the rapists and murderers have not been turned over to courts. RandomNumbers Feb 25 #35
Why do you say "innocent" Gazans? Why the scare quotes? obamanut2012 Feb 26 #44
Rapists and murderers, or their family members. RandomNumbers Mar 2 #49
And the illegal invasion by settlers is still happening. So.. your point? TeamProg Feb 26 #47
So why not defend their land against the settlers? Why indiscriminately rape and torture tourists? RandomNumbers Mar 2 #48
The resistance from citizens was not unlike other terrorist techniques. Citizens or freedom fighters of British colonies TeamProg Mar 2 #50
Citizens or freedom fighters of British colonies thucythucy Mar 2 #54
Read the full thread. TeamProg Mar 2 #55
I did. thucythucy Mar 2 #58
Ah, the "open air prison" argument again... yagotme Feb 26 #43
Nothing justifies this... Zeitghost Feb 24 #8
Sickening mcar Feb 24 #13
And this is really the tragedy of Gaza. It became an independent state in 2007 question everything Feb 24 #18
Quite True, Sir The Magistrate Feb 24 #19
That would be essentially seen as failure across the board TheKentuckian Feb 25 #36
"freedom fighter" supporters are gonna be real salty....nt LexVegas Feb 26 #46
Remember who & how they started this horror. Joinfortmill Mar 2 #51
It's damn good Traildogbob Mar 2 #53
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2 #56
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