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154. Next you're gonna tell me

Thu Jan 25, 2024, 10:13 PM

Jan 2024

the little bastards aren't gonna drive cars with a carburetor. That they'll pick that new fangled fuel injection stuff!!11!!

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Cursive writing is not being taught in much of America. [View all] Cyrano Jan 2024 OP

It's a boomer super-power. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #1

Along with being able to drive a vehicle with standard transmission. diane in sf Jan 2024 #40

I can, but I'm old and I really wouldn't like to start doing that again. CTyankee Jan 2024 #63

I am 75 years old and have only ever driven cars with standard transmissions. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #158

My wife and I both can drive a stick, our 3 boys can't. We have an old 5 speed convertible, it's fun. dem4decades Jan 2024 #203

"many of the sales people have never met a woman who could drive a stick." llmart Jan 2024 #206

Tried to teach my kids....neither figured it out. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #160

When my son was learning to drive, PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #174

In traffic, in hilly terrain. It's a special kind of skill. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2024 #211

I taught my son to drive a three speed CJ5 Jeep Emile Jan 2024 #201

What is also insane is that this 21 yr old at my job couldn't figure it out at all and I had to rewrite it... GuppyGal Jan 2024 #2

That is nuts! happybird Jan 2024 #10

Boy, he's gonna be in trouble when the nurse asks him to draw 2:15 on the nice blank circle! rsdsharp Jan 2024 #16

Probably can't read a sundial either, the horror. n/t Alpeduez21 Jan 2024 #127

...or work an abacus. GhostHunter22 Jan 2024 #143

Wait till he's handed a slide rule. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #169

Meh. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #176

The abacus is actually extremely helpful in learning math redqueen Jan 2024 #213

When I was in fourth grade, PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #175

I Use Cursive At School... ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #26

Cursive with a dip pen and ink? canetoad Jan 2024 #128

Nah! ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #129

𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁, 𝒾 𝑔𝓊𝑒𝓈𝓈 𝒾𝓉 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝒶 𝒸𝑒𝓇𝓉𝒶 getagrip_already Jan 2024 #3

Not fair, that's a font. haele Jan 2024 #74

As the way and reasons we transmit information change, we discard older techniques naturally. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #4

Research seems to show it helps with brain development redqueen Jan 2024 #214

I couldn't agree more. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #5

I'm 70 years old, so of course I can read and write it. Pretty well, actually. Goodheart Jan 2024 #6

Interesting. I just jotted down a note on that. Cyrano Jan 2024 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author edisdead Jan 2024 #55

I whole-heartedly agree. nt KarenS Jan 2024 #12

I'm 71, so obviously I used it in grade school and can read it, or most of it that is legible, elocs Jan 2024 #17

I'd actually prefer Jilly_in_VA Jan 2024 #20

I don't kow what Italic script is, but Cyrano Jan 2024 #42

Cursive and Italic are similar, but the former has more loops and curls and the letters are connected tornado34jh Jan 2024 #80

Agreed edisdead Jan 2024 #57

Well said. Xavier Breath Jan 2024 #104

Incorrect. redqueen Jan 2024 #215

There are many other things which help with brain development and motor skills. Goodheart Jan 2024 #223

Which things are you referring to? redqueen Jan 2024 #227

The longhand version of the Declaration of Independence was just for bragging rights. Aristus Jan 2024 #7

Called The "Broadsides" ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #27

A guy in my town found one in a thrift shop several years ago Tanuki Jan 2024 #58

Outstanding! ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #64

Meanwhile, the guy who donated it to the thrift store Tanuki Jan 2024 #69

What A Drag ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #113

There are still non-printed documents out there, such as family letters. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #73

And if someone wants to read them Mariana Jan 2024 #145

Interesting points, esp. about the DoI in the post offfice window, and yet c-rational Jan 2024 #105

Literacy matters. Cursive writing helps kids' brains. redqueen Jan 2024 #216

One of my grandsons Jilly_in_VA Jan 2024 #8

Great example. Cyrano Jan 2024 #15

I had to learn it. SarahD Jan 2024 #11

Good for you, SarahD. Cyrano Jan 2024 #93

Bring back hieroglyphics! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2024 #13

Cuneiform or cave paintings Jerry2144 Jan 2024 #30

I agree with you completely fernlady Jan 2024 #14

I'm surprised you didn't teach your daughters to read cursive Mariana Jan 2024 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #18

I do not understand the obsession with cursive writing. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2024 #19

Benefits Dorian Gray Jan 2024 #198

The only thing I use cursive for anymore... Silent3 Jan 2024 #21

That's a good point. Teaching it now is just a waste of teacher time and materials. Goodheart Jan 2024 #23

Absolutely! NewLarry Jan 2024 #67

But can you read it? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #161

Yes, but I also encountered it frequently outside of school Silent3 Jan 2024 #170

Here are some pretty good reasons from google Cyrano Jan 2024 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author John Shaft Jan 2024 #24

Cursive writing and critical thinking are interlinked. Cyrano Jan 2024 #29

Also good for developing fine motor skills Easterncedar Jan 2024 #56

That's funny, since most doctors' signatures are illegible Clash City Rocker Jan 2024 #192

Lots of MORE USEFUL things and practices also improve brain development Goodheart Jan 2024 #76

Clever use there of "interlinked" as though critical thinking skills depend on cursive writing. Goodheart Jan 2024 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author relayerbob Jan 2024 #87

Learning to write in cursive is shown to improve brain development in the areas of thinking, language and working memory Donkees Jan 2024 #25

Thank you intrepidity Jan 2024 #38

It becomes easier to tap into a flow state where creativity and focus are amplified, Donkees Jan 2024 #60

The same claims used to be made for diagramming sentences JCMach1 Jan 2024 #147

I have gotten into discussions, read arguments, with PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #171

Cursive is still taught in private schools, some public schools, and is making a comeback Donkees Jan 2024 #200

I'm not being snarky here, just curious... llmart Jan 2024 #207

I feel one of the most useful things I ever learned was diagramming sentences. Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #220

It was a complete waste of time for me. It neither helped me develop JCMach1 Jan 2024 #234

Phonics? How do people even learn to read without phonics? Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #240

In depth discussion here JCMach1 Jan 2024 #244

After having read several paragraphs, Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #245

Phonics and basal readers almost destroyed me as a student JCMach1 Jan 2024 #246

Well, if that's who's pushing it, Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #248

What it's saying is more than a decade of pushing phonics in UK JCMach1 Jan 2024 #247

Ditto LAS14 Jan 2024 #230

At one time public schools offered a quality education incorporating the liberal arts Donkees Jan 2024 #232

I only use cursive for a signature sakabatou Jan 2024 #28

If you had told me when I was younger... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #31

Other issue is fine motor control... JT45242 Jan 2024 #32

I learned fine motor control gay texan Jan 2024 #133

Left handed by any chance? I am. I use a half hook position to write cursive electric_blue68 Jan 2024 #235

There's research out there that indicates PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #163

I was a science major. My notes were usually full of math equations, sketches, graphs, etc. hunter Jan 2024 #217

I was told by someone at the post office, bamagal62 Jan 2024 #33

That advice has been out there for at least 30, maybe 40 years or more. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #165

True. bamagal62 Jan 2024 #168

I can't even read my own cursive nowadays Redleg Jan 2024 #34

I use cursive because I can write faster than I can print. patphil Jan 2024 #35

I remember reading somewhere happybird Jan 2024 #59

IMO cursive has (rightfully) become Disaffected Jan 2024 #36

Sad that future generations won't be able to read the nation's actual, original, founding documents... brush Jan 2024 #37

People who want to read old documents can learn to read cursive on their own. Mariana Jan 2024 #148

I learned cursive when I was a kid, and couldn't read most of them Clash City Rocker Jan 2024 #193

If the goal is to convey the message ripcord Jan 2024 #39

My favorite memory from school was learning cursive writing. madaboutharry Jan 2024 #41

Not this stuff again..... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #43

Neither is the abacus... JCMach1 Jan 2024 #44

Using the abacus does indeed improve critical thinking and motor skills Goodheart Jan 2024 #226

I haven't written cursive in 30 years...nor have I had a need to read it. brooklynite Jan 2024 #45

Careful Cursive Writing is a MAGAT Buga-boo rlexx Jan 2024 #46

Agree. How do you read the letters sent home from your sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #47

You go buy a book for ten bucks, and learn to read cursive. Mariana Jan 2024 #150

Reading ability does not equal writing ability swong19104 Jan 2024 #48

What do people do for signatures? nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #49

Signatures don't have to be written in cursive. They can be lettered. Mariana Jan 2024 #151

cursive is not easy for anyone to read Avis Jan 2024 #50

Some benefits of cursive. Read it and weep. (just kidding, but cursive is a good thing) Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #51

How about teaching morse code, too? DBoon Jan 2024 #52

In my public office we needed to to read cursive Easterncedar Jan 2024 #53

No doubt they might turn up soldierant Jan 2024 #109

It's been 2-3 decades since they taught cursive in school Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #54

My children learned D'Nealian as well, phylny Jan 2024 #90

It's an obsolete hobby skill Orrex Jan 2024 #61

Printing is inefficient compared to cursive bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #62

Writing in cursive is an act that involves both sides of your brain, so maybe that's pnwmom Jan 2024 #65

Same in Canada and I had no idea until I wrote out my Xmas cards to the grandchildren Bev54 Jan 2024 #66

My kid (senior in HS now) learned cursive. SYFROYH Jan 2024 #68

Cursive is a lot faster. I use both but I leftyladyfrommo Jan 2024 #75

I fought this battle and lost in my kids school at the turn of the century. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2024 #70

You didn't teach them at home? Mariana Jan 2024 #155

Sorry, What? Prairie_Seagull Jan 2024 #209

Gen X here, for reference. Otterdaemmerung Jan 2024 #71

Put aside that it's middle english..: Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #84

I can't read cuneiform or hieroglyphics Alpeduez21 Jan 2024 #121

I gave up writing cursive when I was about 14 paulkienitz Jan 2024 #72

Careful... folks around here will say you lack critical thinking skills. Goodheart Jan 2024 #86

about as convincing as the latest ad for an Android app that's supposed to help you fight congnitive decline paulkienitz Jan 2024 #130

Believe it will be taught here in California. Also, critical thinking skills Polly Hennessey Jan 2024 #77

I go back to the question raised by electronic life style as a whole: what happens when the power goes out? Ford_Prefect Jan 2024 #78

An interesting thread, but you've nailed it, as well as some others. Abolishinist Jan 2024 #189

I learned shorthand Jimbo S Jan 2024 #79

I would have thought that shorthand would have been a great skill to own. Chainfire Jan 2024 #81

I learned shorthand in high school. I still use it a little. I reviewed it during the lockdown. raccoon Jan 2024 #197

I stopped using it in grade school ... relayerbob Jan 2024 #83

I had read an article months ago about young people not being able to read niyad Jan 2024 #85

I learned to print before I entered school. I learned cursive ("grown-up writing") only in mid-early grades. eppur_se_muova Jan 2024 #88

Whenever I read the Constitution, it is in print eallen Jan 2024 #89

I can think of many reasons why it is important but... Hope22 Jan 2024 #91

Correct... Goodheart Jan 2024 #92

Exactly what I was thinking birdographer Jan 2024 #95

🤣😁😂 Hope22 Jan 2024 #131

No one is teaching how to make change, either. lastlib Jan 2024 #94

Not good to teach kids math if cursive gets overlooked! Goodheart Jan 2024 #96

I confuse them by giving them $10.25 for an $8.20 charge, for better change Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #204

I can't think of any reason to continue to teach cursive writing. As long as basic writing is still taught beaglelover Jan 2024 #97

One subject I absolutely hated. ificandream Jan 2024 #98

And THERE'S another good reason for it die. Goodheart Jan 2024 #100

It's their world BaronChocula Jan 2024 #99

I think it's high time we start teaching a NEW alphabet that more accurately reflects the sounds we make... Goodheart Jan 2024 #101

I think it's slowly happening BaronChocula Jan 2024 #102

With or without 'sliding' vowel sounds found in different dialects of English? Model35mech Jan 2024 #108

Nice idea, but if words are spelled PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #177

Out with the old, in with the new Shermann Jan 2024 #103

I can write in cursive... my son can write computer code. WarGamer Jan 2024 #106

Gen X here. We were allowed to JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #107

What are the advantages? Doodley Jan 2024 #117

Speaking for myself, JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #119

Thank you for your reply. Being old, I don't remember a time I couldn't write in cursive, so it's hard to Doodley Jan 2024 #132

Agree.... Mossfern Jan 2024 #186

As a left-hander, my hand rests differently on the page when printing AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2024 #138

Interesting. I never thought of that. Doodley Jan 2024 #178

Keep in mind, some lefties PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #182

That's exactly it AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2024 #185

No, he doesn't have a smearing problem because PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #195

Lefty who uses a ?half hook. Idk about brain hemispheres... electric_blue68 Jan 2024 #237

Hmmm! Idk if I hook when I print. I do both electric_blue68 Jan 2024 #238

Ha! Try learning Calligraphy (Art College) when you're left-handed... electric_blue68 Jan 2024 #236

Yep. Same. herding cats Jan 2024 #153

It's not in the curriculum, but I teach it anyway. aocommunalpunch Jan 2024 #110

So when you are asked for your signature, will print be acceptable? Fla Dem Jan 2024 #111

... Mariana Jan 2024 #156

So some young people cant' read/write cursive TxGuitar Jan 2024 #112

Cursive was useful before such an extensive print culture GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #114

When something in cursive is important to the plot of a movie I think about this. betsuni Jan 2024 #115

Ask young people what they know about the holocaust. This is part of the dumbing down of America. Doodley Jan 2024 #116

I'm 78, so of course Ilearned it soldierant Jan 2024 #118

I don't Rebl2 Jan 2024 #120

People in many walks of life used to "do cursive." BadgerKid Jan 2024 #122

Morse code and smoke signals or GTFO nt Rob H. Jan 2024 #123

Morse code isnt even a requirement gay texan Jan 2024 #134

I think learning multiple languages would be a bigger benefit JI7 Jan 2024 #124

Replace it with semaphore. Problem solved. nt GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #125

In 2018 my daughter's 3rd grade teacher said her handwriting was messy Alpeduez21 Jan 2024 #126

It wasn't only about the writing. It's about learning a skill, dexterity, and discipline. Why learn fractions? Doodley Jan 2024 #137

If it's about learning a skill, dexterity, and discipline Alpeduez21 Jan 2024 #166

There is always more useless stuff to be learnt at school! Doodley Jan 2024 #180

i learned cursive in school, i haven't hardly used it in at least 25 years Takket Jan 2024 #135

My 2 kids are 36 and 26 mcar Jan 2024 #136

It's not on the high-stakes standardized test, so why would they teach it? jmowreader Jan 2024 #139

Can't remember the last time I have written more than a sentence in cursive hack89 Jan 2024 #140

I keep part of my journals in cursive, part typed on the computer, and snot Jan 2024 #141

Haven't used it in 30+ years. Xolodno Jan 2024 #142

When I want to leave a note to a teacher I'm substituting for I will write the note in cursive kimbutgar Jan 2024 #144

Learning it was torture, just one more thing that made school hell. hunter Jan 2024 #149

Long ago, writing was chiseled onto stones PJMcK Jan 2024 #152

Next you're gonna tell me newdayneeded Jan 2024 #154

I can barely write my signature in cursive. Somewhere along the way. I started writing in capitol block. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #157

They would need to have historical documents translated JohnSJ Jan 2024 #159

There's nothing wrong with that. Mariana Jan 2024 #191

If it were my kids kacekwl Jan 2024 #162

makes me happy when I look on Reddit and see certain categories: IcyPeas Jan 2024 #164

I am a calligrapher myself.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #167

That is very encouraging! redqueen Jan 2024 #212

A lot of younger people can't write out a proper signature. Mosby Jan 2024 #172

Cursive Handwriting 49jim Jan 2024 #173

Well, my generation can't chisel words into granite or write eloquently on parchment. Silent Type Jan 2024 #179

How do students learn to sign their name? dlk Jan 2024 #181

Signatures don't need to be in cursive. Mariana Jan 2024 #188

There's cursive and printing dlk Jan 2024 #205

My mother was born in 1916. She attended Catholic schools as a child. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #183

I quit using it as soon as my teachers let me. ThoughtCriminal Jan 2024 #184

cursive writing is returning to classrooms across California. Why some local teachers say it never should have left. CoopersDad Jan 2024 #187

My cursive writing was never very good.... DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #190

I used to collect fountain pens. Straw Man Jan 2024 #194

I'm in my 70's and I don't think it should be taught any more. raccoon Jan 2024 #196

For people who think cursive is hopelessly out of date, well, so is anything written more than betsuni Jan 2024 #199

Now, next step is to teach doctors how to print Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #202

My Father ( b. 1910) learned Latin in school. No one was considered to be "educated" who could not read and Chainfire Jan 2024 #208

Isn't there already enough scientific evidence to support teaching it? redqueen Jan 2024 #210

Couldn't agree more. Cyrano Jan 2024 #221

I wish there was more research into these things redqueen Jan 2024 #225

No, there isn't. Goodheart Jan 2024 #222

No, it was demonstrated through peer reviewed research redqueen Jan 2024 #224

Once again, because you missed the point the first time around... Goodheart Jan 2024 #228

Which things are you referring to? redqueen Jan 2024 #231

I have many letters written by my father's paternal grandfather during... 3catwoman3 Jan 2024 #218

If you didn't read cursive and you wanted to read those letters, wouldn't you learn? Mariana Jan 2024 #242

A good point. I probably would have, as I am fascinated by family history. 3catwoman3 Jan 2024 #243

I defy anyone to print as fast as they can write longhand. Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #219

And shorthand is even better. Goodheart Jan 2024 #229

In my opinion, because the only application of shorthand is to take notes. Susan Calvin Jan 2024 #233

Well, I (at 70) never gave up my cursive writing even as a left hander. I print, too... electric_blue68 Jan 2024 #239

Same in Canada with some exceptions. EllieBC Jan 2024 #241

How will they sign their names? Nt Quixote1818 Jan 2024 #249