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sarchasm

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Sun Dec 10, 2023, 11:54 AM Dec 2023

Frank Sinatra's views on organized religion - 1963 Playboy Interview [View all]



The Witch Doctor In The Middle

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Playboy: All right, let’s start with the most basic question there is: Are you a religious man? Do you believe in God?

Sinatra: Well, that’ll do for openers. I think I can sum up my religious feelings in a couple of paragraphs. First: I believe in you and me. I’m like Albert Schweitzer and Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein in that I have a respect for life—in any form. I believe in nature, in the birds, the sea, the sky, in everything I can see or that there is real evidence for. If these things are what you mean by God, then I believe in God. But I don’t believe in a personal God to whom I look for comfort or for a natural on the next roll of the dice. I’m not unmindful of man’s seeming need for faith; I’m for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniel’s. But to me religion is a deeply personal thing in which man and God go it alone together, without the witch doctor in the middle. The witch doctor tries to convince us that we have to ask God for help, to spell out to him what we need, even to bribe him with prayer or cash on the line. Well, I believe that God knows what each of us wants and needs. It’s not necessary for us to make it to church on Sunday to reach Him. You can find Him anyplace. And if that sounds heretical, my source is pretty good: Matthew, Five to Seven, The Sermon on the Mount.

Playboy: You haven’t found any answers for yourself in organized religion?

Sinatra: There are things about organized religion which I resent. Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history. You show me one step forward in the name of religion and I’ll show you a hundred retrogressions. Remember, they were men of God who destroyed the educational treasures at Alexandria, who perpetrated the Inquisition in Spain, who burned the witches at Salem. Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well. In India they worship white cows, monkeys and a dip in the Ganges. The Moslems accept slavery and prepare for Allah, who promises wine and revirginated women. And witch doctors aren’t just in Africa. If you look in the L.A. papers of a Sunday morning, you’ll see the local variety advertising their wares like suits with two pairs of pants.

Playboy: Hasn’t religious faith just as often served as a civilizing influence?

Sinatra: Remember that leering, cursing lynch mob in Little Rock reviling a meek, innocent little 12-year-old Negro girl as she tried to enroll in public school? Weren’t they —or most of them— devout churchgoers? I detest the two-faced who pretend liberality but are practiced bigots in their own mean little spheres. I didn’t tell my daughter whom to marry, but I’d have broken her back if she had had big eyes for a bigot. As I see it, man is a product of his conditioning, and the social forces which mold his morality and conduct —including racial prejudice— are influenced more by material things like food and economic necessities than by the fear and awe and bigotry generated by the high priests of commercialized superstition. Now don’t get me wrong. I’m for decency—period. I’m for anything and everything that bodes love and consideration for my fellow man. But when lip service to some mysterious deity permits bestiality on Wednesday and absolution on Sunday—cash me out.

Playboy: But aren’t such spiritual hypocrites in a minority? Aren’t most Americans fairly consistent in their conduct within the precepts of religious doctrine?

Sinatra: I’ve got no quarrel with men of decency at any level. But I can’t believe that decency stems only from religion. And I can’t help wondering how many public figures make avowals of religious faith to maintain an aura of respectability. Our civilization, such as it is, was shaped by religion, and the men who aspire to public office anyplace in the free world must make obeisance to God or risk immediate opprobrium. Our press accurately reflects the religious nature of our society, but you’ll notice that it also carries the articles and advertisements of astrology and hokey Elmer Gantry revivalists. We in America pride ourselves on freedom of the press, but every day I see, and so do you, this kind of dishonesty and distortion not only in this area but in reporting—about guys like me, for instance, which is of minor importance except to me; but also in reporting world news. How can a free people make decisions without facts? If the press reports world news as they report about me, we’re in trouble.

Playboy: Are you saying that…

Sinatra: No, wait, let me finish. Have you thought of the chance I’m taking by speaking out this way? Can you imagine the deluge of crank letters, curses, threats and obscenities I’ll receive after these remarks gain general circulation?Worse, the boycott of my records, my films, maybe a picket line at my opening at the Sands. Why? Because I’ve dared to say that love and decency are not necessarily concomitants of religious fervor.

Playboy: If you think you’re stepping over the line, offending your public or perhaps risking economic suicide, shall we cut this off now, erase the tape and start over along more antiseptic lines?

Sinatra: No, let’s let it run. I’ve thought this way for years, ached to say these things. Whom have I harmed by what I’ve said? What moral defection have I suggested? No, I don’t want to chicken out now. Come on, pal, the clock’s running.

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https://warewhulf.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/playboy-interview-frank-sinatra1.pdf

If I align spiritually with anyone, it's this guy...

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I had no idea Sinatra was that smart Orangepeel Dec 2023 #1
That was my reaction as well Nittersing Dec 2023 #4
I had to look up that one too Walleye Dec 2023 #5
And me 'concomitant' onetexan Dec 2023 #27
Oh, I knew he was intelligent, but I never realized how articulate he was at expressing his worldview and his considered Texin Dec 2023 #26
Agree, but it makes sense, given that Mia Farrow is also spooky3 Dec 2023 #29
Smart and very enlightened. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #51
Did you know he was a Doctor of Engineering from the Abolishinist Dec 2023 #59
I'm not surprised that he was awarded an honorary degree Orangepeel Dec 2023 #61
His great music covered, to a certain extent, Sinatra's compassion for people. ificandream Dec 2023 #2
+1 peppertree Dec 2023 #21
Who knew the articles and interviews were worth reading? Silent Type Dec 2023 #3
Many famous authors were published in (and debuted pieces in) Playboy. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #17
lol chowder66 Dec 2023 #33
Well, Playboy did publish some very intelligent articles, but let us not forget these came to us in the PatrickforB Dec 2023 #44
Good advice, if you can't believe the reporting on him what can you believe Walleye Dec 2023 #6
"The greatest tragedy in human history.... lastlib Dec 2023 #7
For hundreds of thousands of years, social primates such as humans Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #28
Thanks for posting. Well said Frank. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #8
Wow, gives me a whole new appreciation of Frank Sinatra. Fla Dem Dec 2023 #9
I was into different music and so didn't pay much attention to him. pandr32 Dec 2023 #14
great interview... loved the man! mountain grammy Dec 2023 #10
The Rep agenda was not the same then as it is now. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #54
He supported Reagan mountain grammy Dec 2023 #58
Hollywood twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #63
Mr. Sinatra jumped up several steps in my opinion after reading that. patphil Dec 2023 #11
spiritual is a nonsense word; use words for the actual emotions kiri Dec 2023 #22
I agree. I don't like that word. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #60
I agree, for you spirituality is a nonsense word. patphil Dec 2023 #52
Amazing side of Frank I never knew SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #12
The entire interview is worth reading Blaukraut Dec 2023 #13
Thanks for posting Mysterian Dec 2023 #15
Never knew Old Blue Eyes was so informed and articulate. Thanks for posting. Demnation Dec 2023 #16
Right on Mr. Sinatra. StarryNite Dec 2023 #18
A couple of observations - I'm just spitballin' here ... FakeNoose Dec 2023 #19
... or perhaps even had the questions (and the answers) advanced through his PR people. sarchasm Dec 2023 #48
OMG. Who knew Frank Sinatra was that intelligent? Goodheart Dec 2023 #20
Thanks for posting. What a thoughtful man Raven123 Dec 2023 #23
A wise man this Frank... bahboo Dec 2023 #24
One of my favorite Frank Sinatra references came a few years ago. Norbert Dec 2023 #25
Frank Sinatra hated Donald Trump Niagara Dec 2023 #65
How refreshing to read such clear articulation. It's a dying art and I had no idea Sinatra was so gifted chia Dec 2023 #31
I share Ol' Blue Eyes' views on organized religions. sop Dec 2023 #32
Very sharp reply interspersed with classic Sinatrisms. Kablooie Dec 2023 #34
I just gained a helluva lotta respect for Frank Sinatra Martin Eden Dec 2023 #35
WOW! calimary Dec 2023 #36
Sinatra was intelligent, but not a role model. John1956PA Dec 2023 #37
He nailed it. Where the heck did he get his education? Swede Dec 2023 #38
47 days of high school before being kicked out for rowdiness, never to return. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #53
Listen to "The House I Live In" montanacowboy Dec 2023 #39
Wow Wild blueberry Dec 2023 #40
Funny that John Lennon faced a lynching for his comments TxGuitar Dec 2023 #41
Morality and decency are not the sole property of organized religion. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #42
Sinatra did have one major failing, he liked hanging out with Mob fellows. Archae Dec 2023 #43
You know, when something sounds too good to be true, Abolishinist Dec 2023 #45
Of course. The interview transcript was tweaked and polished before publication. John1956PA Dec 2023 #50
Ahh, the truth being somewhere in between... sarchasm Dec 2023 #66
After reading the Playboy article it just didn't add up. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #68
Sounds like a Matthew-style Christian. Baitball Blogger Dec 2023 #46
Excellent!! Owl Dec 2023 #47
That whole 1963 interview with Sinatra was very eye-opening erronis Dec 2023 #49
About Sammy Davis, Jr. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #55
Commercialized Superstition. That nails MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #56
As a kid I loved his voice.... spanone Dec 2023 #57
Frank Sinatra was a big JFK supporter. roamer65 Dec 2023 #62
I know a deeply pious fan who needs to read this. JohnnyRingo Dec 2023 #64
I'm never surprised by my Idol sky_masterson Dec 2023 #67
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