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38. Religion is used by a weapon by those in power.

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:09 PM

Nov 2023

By both the religious and the non-religious.

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I'm seeing people paint religion with a broad brush here. [View all] applegrove Nov 2023 OP

So... Is everyone right? No one right? If not everyone, NewHendoLib Nov 2023 #1

Expect to be "educated" sarisataka Nov 2023 #2

So, OP can "educate," but those disagreeing with him can't? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #9

I am big on freedom of speech sarisataka Nov 2023 #14

I wouldn't say ALL believers are mentally ill JoseBalow Nov 2023 #54

Cute, but not going to bite sarisataka Nov 2023 #68

So you think President Biden and whathehell Nov 2023 #84

Clearly they do JoseBalow Nov 2023 #86

Lol..Sorry, but I'm afraid that's not 'clear' whathehell Nov 2023 #89

I'm skeptical of the use of quotation marks around the word "evidence" JoseBalow Nov 2023 #91

Sure sign of extreme sophistry ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #100

Really?..I'm skeptical of those who whathehell Nov 2023 #117

"punctuation" JoseBalow Nov 2023 #118

Lol! whathehell Nov 2023 #133

I don't play chess with pigeons JoseBalow Nov 2023 #135

Why? whathehell Nov 2023 #137

And they say irony is dead JoseBalow Nov 2023 #141

Awww whathehell Nov 2023 #143

jesus fucking christ, you again? JoseBalow Nov 2023 #145

What is YOUR problem?? whathehell Nov 2023 #146

So then put me on ignore and STOP HARASSING ME! JoseBalow Nov 2023 #147

You put ME on Ignore, and STOP HARASSING ME! whathehell Nov 2023 #149

You're just bullying me at this point JoseBalow Nov 2023 #150

Lol..I am bullying YOU? whathehell Nov 2023 #151

Please leave me alone JoseBalow Nov 2023 #152

Please leave me alone. whathehell Nov 2023 #153

please just stop harassing me JoseBalow Nov 2023 #154

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This is just abusive stalking and harassment PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE! JoseBalow Nov 2023 #158

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This is abusive, just stop already! JoseBalow Nov 2023 #160

Now you are harassing my inbox? WTF is your problem? JoseBalow Nov 2023 #162

No, it's not changing ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #99

It seems you need to re-read the post.. whathehell Nov 2023 #113

I know they lack those skills ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #98

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What about them inthewind21 Nov 2023 #3

I would suggest that maybe you are painting religion TxGuitar Nov 2023 #4

For me it is simple. All religion is superstition. Chainfire Nov 2023 #5

Could it possibly be... NewLarry Nov 2023 #35

I was raised in a church, I have a good feel what the church and the church people are about. I know that Chainfire Nov 2023 #41

I believe in science, too. NewLarry Nov 2023 #194

Do you believe both in evolution and the creation of Genesis? Chainfire Nov 2023 #195

of course not, I'm religious, not irrational NewLarry Nov 2023 #197

Fair enough. Chainfire Nov 2023 #200

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Yes. They have something I don't. dchill Nov 2023 #58

What are you saying here? We who aren't religious fear death? LakeArenal Nov 2023 #63

Dread death? I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2023 #94

Happy fairytales. Nothing proven. Wishful thinking. lindysalsagal Nov 2023 #50

Too simple, maybe? whathehell Nov 2023 #134

It's a DU tradition BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #6

Sorry, Dresden was a war crime. And Tokyo. And Coventry. And the Blitz. obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #11

I'm glad you're amused. BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #15

I think you're smarter than that dpibel Nov 2023 #72

Except that poster didn't mention London, they mentioned Coventry. BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #75

Don't think Coventry and the Blitz are the same thing dpibel Nov 2023 #90

I grew up.... usedtobedemgurl Nov 2023 #7

Much the same here. Conjuay Nov 2023 #62

Children are not as dumb as some adults.... usedtobedemgurl Nov 2023 #83

You can do all these great and moral things and be an atheist obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #8

Indeed inthewind21 Nov 2023 #18

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #30

Religion is used by a weapon by those in power. NewLarry Nov 2023 #38

Actually atheists Butterflylady Nov 2023 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2023 #10

Bashing Christianity in general is a great way to alienate large numbers of people. dawg Nov 2023 #12

Define "bashing" obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #21

From Wikipedia ... dawg Nov 2023 #22

people who believe a magical man is talking to them tend to be a problem Red Raider 85 Nov 2023 #59

If you speak to a "magical man", you may need some education; JoseBalow Nov 2023 #78

Your particular belief doesn't harm me, as mine doesn't harm you. BUT if you are part Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #79

You are entitled to believe in your religion and practise it and I respect that. What I find offensive is when Bev54 Nov 2023 #81

Exactly John Shaft Nov 2023 #101

Thank You..I've made this point many times. whathehell Nov 2023 #88

Well stated Redleg Nov 2023 #187

Your individual belief isn't harmful, and I'm fine with you having it Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2023 #206

In this country the more religious you are the more likely you are to be a Trump voter. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #13

If you look at the breakdown of the various religious groups Mariana Nov 2023 #139

As an Athiest Timewas Nov 2023 #16

"Atheist" Goodheart Nov 2023 #106

I've been intentionally trying to light fires (figure of speech) under these good Christians we've brewens Nov 2023 #17

yep edisdead Nov 2023 #124

I don't give a fuck if anyone believes in religion. I draw the line when they think I need to believe in it. Autumn Nov 2023 #19

I don't care if anyone is religious. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2023 #20

I can't speak to your experience. WDLAL Nov 2023 #28

Of course there are good people who are religious. There are good people who are athiests. And there are bad people Chainfire Nov 2023 #34

Why are they praying for the ones that dont? Eko Nov 2023 #74

Because they care and they believe it will benefit them. WDLAL Nov 2023 #189

That is not quite what I got from that. Eko Nov 2023 #223

You are partially correct. WDLAL Nov 2023 #229

Do you ever pray that those that dont believe as it goes "find Jesus? Eko Nov 2023 #230

Of course I do. WDLAL Nov 2023 #231

I thought about this for a couple of days. Eko Nov 2023 #232

You misunderstood my response. WDLAL Nov 2023 #233

No, Eko Nov 2023 #234

Apparently, I've misunderstood. WDLAL Nov 2023 #235

Athiesm is just Eko Nov 2023 #237

Not many other religions I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2023 #95

Hey! Eko Nov 2023 #156

I don't care if anyone's atheist.. whathehell Nov 2023 #142

The Carters aren't rare, or unique, not that it makes any difference to you or others here. MerryBlooms Nov 2023 #180

Being a good, decent person TlalocW Nov 2023 #23

I am Atheist pfitz59 Nov 2023 #24

It's pretty simple really... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #25

I'm gonna chime in here to make a statement i've said before. bluestarone Nov 2023 #26

No inthewind21 Nov 2023 #29

I agree wholeheartedly and thank your for this and moniss Nov 2023 #27

It seems that very few "religious" people are good. tenderfoot Nov 2023 #31

All religions are equally bad angrychair Nov 2023 #32

it certainly is an unnecessary way to separate people Skittles Nov 2023 #37

Not the nudist buddhists. GreenWave Nov 2023 #128

Come on, Islam has to take the cake. redqueen Nov 2023 #136

A big slice of organized religion has been hijacked by power hungry fascists. usonian Nov 2023 #33

you do not need religion to be a good person Skittles Nov 2023 #36

I didn't say that. That was not my point at all. applegrove Nov 2023 #40

Extremist anything, not just Christian Caliman73 Nov 2023 #39

But that is the problem --doctrine is man made and changes with time and events. I was raised Catholic and studied for a debm55 Nov 2023 #53

That is what Protestants hated about Catholics... we interpret scripture and use other tradition. Caliman73 Nov 2023 #114

I never took the Old Testament as real, even in grade school. They were stories told in a way that people could debm55 Nov 2023 #115

And I see religious people painting non-believers with a wide brush. So what? Chainfire Nov 2023 #42

Jimmy Carter NowISeetheLight Nov 2023 #43

you do not need religion to be a good person Skittles Nov 2023 #70

Agreed NowISeetheLight Nov 2023 #112

The problem with that argument... Caliman73 Nov 2023 #120

It's a very usual human thing and fascinating. The variety is amazing. betsuni Nov 2023 #44

. ItsjustMe Nov 2023 #45

I'm an atheist who works at a Reform Jewish synagogue GreenEyedLefty Nov 2023 #46

i live in a very jewish hood. mopinko Nov 2023 #105

People have been painting anyone and everyone with broad brushes here IronLionZion Nov 2023 #47

If you are secure in your beliefs why do you care what anyone thinks. LakeArenal Nov 2023 #48

I despise all religions, as far as I know... mike_c Nov 2023 #49

Religion is the creation of humans, and any religion is only as good or as bad Ocelot II Nov 2023 #51

I agree with you, Ocelot II debm55 Nov 2023 #56

I do not agree with you. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #161

Yip, MY broad brush: It's humans' first invention & the final destruction. UTUSN Nov 2023 #225

all religions are made up nonsense Red Raider 85 Nov 2023 #52

Sometimes it's hard to choose a brush size hurl Nov 2023 #55

Here is something easier Chi67 Nov 2023 #60

I think people have just as much right to agree with religion as to not agree with it. walkingman Nov 2023 #61

"I don't think it has anything to do with religion." Agree. betsuni Nov 2023 #64

Not biting. Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2023 #65

I think man created religion to rationalize reality and provide a platform to hope that life could be everlasting. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #66

Probably, however Chi67 Nov 2023 #92

Those other religions your refer too need to speak out oldmanlynn Nov 2023 #67

Christianity has been hijacked and transformed into a christofascist movement jmbar2 Nov 2023 #69

I can view humans separately from their religion. I credit the human for being a good human Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #71

Raised Catholic, converted to Greek Orthodox maxrandb Nov 2023 #73

I think you've proved your point. lapucelle Nov 2023 #76

Religion should be a personal choice. toddwv Nov 2023 #77

Not clear what aspect of religion you want specificity on... brooklynite Nov 2023 #80

Thank you. You are correct. whathehell Nov 2023 #82

100% agree, and religions need to stop "Usually represents a combination of ignorance and overall hostility" obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #127

Lol..That's funny whathehell Nov 2023 #131

I'd use a power sprayer. ZonkerHarris Nov 2023 #85

You mean like a bidet? JoseBalow Nov 2023 #93

Super Soaker ZonkerHarris Nov 2023 #96

Well, maybe christians shouldn't ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #97

Save your breath wryter2000 Nov 2023 #102

I feel like I'm in the old gungeon. Does anyone remember applegrove Nov 2023 #103

I stayed out of the gungeon wryter2000 Nov 2023 #116

That's it exactly. Someone would always come along and politely express that applegrove Nov 2023 #119

What's missing in latest TV interviews Pasta 1 Nov 2023 #104

It's not about religion. It's about control. Zambero Nov 2023 #107

One reason to be suspicious of protestant religions in America today is that it has been co-opted by the far right, Chainfire Nov 2023 #108

Not all protestant religions have been co-opted. applegrove Nov 2023 #121

Maybe it's because the 3 Major Religious Cults have been engaging in WAR for about 2000 years and continue msfiddlestix Nov 2023 #109

And, they all worship the same God, too obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #125

The God character of Christianity is evil. Oneironaut Nov 2023 #110

Um, no.. You've got your "god characters" confused whathehell Nov 2023 #126

You are mistaken obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #129

No, I think you are.. whathehell Nov 2023 #132

The god that killed his kid? dpibel Nov 2023 #155

But won't you pledge allegiance to avoid the everlasting tortue? DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #163

There are so many ways to be damned dpibel Nov 2023 #164

lol, I was thinking the same thing. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #166

So you are, in fact dpibel Nov 2023 #171

I do not take that wager. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #172

Speak straight, my friend dpibel Nov 2023 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #178

Everlasting torture that is promised by a book that also lies about the earth being filled with water and Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #170

I like your logic DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #176

Bravo!! Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #169

Christian dominionist are the ones I'm singling out. America's Taliban IMO. Hotler Nov 2023 #111

Exactly. applegrove Nov 2023 #122

Because it's all bullsh*t? edisdead Nov 2023 #123

The broad brush of religion Brenda Nov 2023 #130

Democracy says you can, if enough people believe your same religion. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #165

Just because some religious people are good people doesn't mean much. Sky Jewels Nov 2023 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2023 #140

I consider myself spiritual but not very religious mvd Nov 2023 #144

Indeed NT Patton French Nov 2023 #148

I'm an atheist, but I agree with you. Crunchy Frog Nov 2023 #167

The people you mentioned would have been great people WITHOUT religion. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #168

You can't prove that. Jimmy Carter would never have applegrove Nov 2023 #173

Just as you cannot prove otherwise. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #188

There is absolutely no way of knowing any of that. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #199

How do you know that? And why are you equating being devout with being a good person? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #218

I meant Jimmy Carter being devout to the walk the walk applegrove Nov 2023 #221

I always have, and will forever continue to paint religion and religionists with the broadest brush possible. Iggo Nov 2023 #175

Alienating Christians by the left is, in large part, why a lot of Christians tolerate the GOP. NCIndie Nov 2023 #177

Tragic, victimized Christians dpibel Nov 2023 #179

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sarcasm is the answer. NCIndie Nov 2023 #181

It's actually a substantive reply dpibel Nov 2023 #182

Take an objective look at the tone of your post. NCIndie Nov 2023 #193

What are these Christian values that you would like embraced? DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2023 #183

Those that coincide with basic, acceptable human behavior. NCIndie Nov 2023 #191

What's the first commandment? dpibel Nov 2023 #196

And the second. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #198

Hey, no one is telling you how to live your life. NCIndie Nov 2023 #215

Other than the fundies, that is dpibel Nov 2023 #220

Where are you going with this? NCIndie Nov 2023 #204

It's not a theological aspect dpibel Nov 2023 #212

You cherry picked the theological aspect. The first four commandments are religious based NCIndie Nov 2023 #213

Why does honoring your parents make you moral? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #217

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. NCIndie Nov 2023 #219

Not all... dslyahoo Nov 2023 #184

Do not like the I'm-so-smart-cause-atheist boasting thing. betsuni Nov 2023 #185

Lobbing a bomb Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #186

For the reason of rationality vs faith jacksonian Nov 2023 #190

I don't care if people worship a doorknob dalton99a Nov 2023 #192

20% of Democrats are gun owners. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #201

Is owning a gun and/or having religious beliefs sarisataka Nov 2023 #203

No. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #211

Then why is it so hard sarisataka Nov 2023 #216

I can't answer for others. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #222

I do not feel like you were attacking sarisataka Nov 2023 #227

As a christian, I recognize that a lot of this expression is from an awful lot of mistreatment by Christians ... marble falls Nov 2023 #202

please drop the christo and call them what they are fascists . some of us do the walk. AllaN01Bear Nov 2023 #205

There are certainly remarkable people who have religious affiliation. pandr32 Nov 2023 #207

My usual respons to the mythological paleotn Nov 2023 #209

Here's my broad brush: NO tax exemptions intrepidity Nov 2023 #210

Now this is painting like DaVinci DFW Nov 2023 #214

I agree, in fact right-wing extremists of all brands of religion should be the true evil we talk about.... AntiFascist Nov 2023 #224

I have often found the religious principles of native Americans to be 'more christian' DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #226

It's always hard to accept ideas that are different than your own. lees1975 Nov 2023 #228

Organized (institutional) religions are rightly Edim Nov 2023 #236

I so don't agree. Look at Unitarians or Presbyterians applegrove Nov 2023 #238