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In reply to the discussion: What's your verdict on Eric Clapton? Have you canceled his music? [View all]Ponietz
(3,067 posts)159. Let's go back and cancel Caravaggio, too
[link:https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/16/theres-a-reason-great-artists-are-assholes
There seems to be something of a purge going on at the moment, targeting any writer, comedian, filmmaker and artist who ever did or said something bad. And I want to cheer it on with the other townsfolk, except for my fear that it will eliminate some of the worlds most interesting art.
Ideally, art would only come from a good place and be created by upstanding citizens who arent selfish or screwed up in any way. But so much of the best art is made by utter degenerates. If we get rid of them, the remaining artists with good childhoods wont be able to handle the workload.
Whether its Picassos streak of dating women who would later go mad or kill themselves, Jean Genets penchant for petty theft or Louis CKs awful timing, artists rap sheets are sometimes as prodigious as their work. And while many of us would be happy to take their art into our homes, we wouldnt necessarily want them picking up our daughter for prom. Get the hell out of here, wed say, before adding, Big fan.
Why is it often that the most flawed among us make the best things? To oversimplify a little, its because there are two types of artists: those who merely want to make art, and those who need to and feel like they have no choice. Guess whose work is better? The desire to pursue an irrational career in the arts tends to begin as a desperate need to escape a troubled background sometimes based on poverty, an abusive childhood, rejection by the opposite sex, or career suffocation. Whatever it is, the result is the eggs-in-one-basket type of person whose selfish need for attention and producing great art neglects most of what makes a person human.
(My emphasis)
Ideally, art would only come from a good place and be created by upstanding citizens who arent selfish or screwed up in any way. But so much of the best art is made by utter degenerates. If we get rid of them, the remaining artists with good childhoods wont be able to handle the workload.
Whether its Picassos streak of dating women who would later go mad or kill themselves, Jean Genets penchant for petty theft or Louis CKs awful timing, artists rap sheets are sometimes as prodigious as their work. And while many of us would be happy to take their art into our homes, we wouldnt necessarily want them picking up our daughter for prom. Get the hell out of here, wed say, before adding, Big fan.
Why is it often that the most flawed among us make the best things? To oversimplify a little, its because there are two types of artists: those who merely want to make art, and those who need to and feel like they have no choice. Guess whose work is better? The desire to pursue an irrational career in the arts tends to begin as a desperate need to escape a troubled background sometimes based on poverty, an abusive childhood, rejection by the opposite sex, or career suffocation. Whatever it is, the result is the eggs-in-one-basket type of person whose selfish need for attention and producing great art neglects most of what makes a person human.
(My emphasis)
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I don't know about racist, but clearly after his son died after falling out the window,
jimfields33
Nov 2023
#128
I liked him in the 90's but not enough to continue past into the millennium.
FlyingPiggy
Nov 2023
#148
The person .................................................... Their music .....nt
Persondem
Nov 2023
#9
Yes. Hear his music, silence his negative speech, don't send him money. . . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2023
#37
You forgot to add Townsend, Zappa, Fripp and Mick Ronson to the before list.
tenderfoot
Nov 2023
#69
Kept saying, Where's Prince? I like to read all the comments before I post, because someone has usually
japple
Nov 2023
#117
Ted Nugent is execrable, but I still like his 9+ minute instrumental "Hibernation" from 1974
Martin Eden
Nov 2023
#129
Haven't bought anything new. But still listen when he comes on my phone when I'm driving.
Nanjeanne
Nov 2023
#26
My verdict on Eric Clapton? Great musician. One of the best guitarists of all time.
Captain Stern
Nov 2023
#42
I never really liked Clapton that much. His music is OK, but he lost me with Cocaine.
PatrickforB
Nov 2023
#44
It is a shame there isn't a way for our brain to be triggered to recognized people that we don't like.
LiberalFighter
Nov 2023
#57
METAL EVOLUTION: ALBUMS -- At the Gates (Sweden) - Slaughter of the Soul documentary (full)
Celerity
Nov 2023
#142
If Clapton were universally canceled, it puts all future Martin Scorsese movies at risk.
Efilroft Sul
Nov 2023
#70
I have always disliked most classic rock (and country) so never had to 'cancel' the racist wanker.....
Celerity
Nov 2023
#71
George Harrison had already cheated on her with Ringo Starr's wife, and possibly others.
highplainsdem
Nov 2023
#88
See my reply 88 above. George cheated on Pattie first, with Ringo's wife.
highplainsdem
Nov 2023
#93
Never cared for him outside of Layla and that's mainly due to Scorsese and Goodfellas
MistakenLamb
Nov 2023
#92
Meh. EC is highly overrated. I'll take sir Brian May, a liberal genius, too!
Ziggysmom
Nov 2023
#106
I can't help but love his music. He defined rock guitar to me, but I wish he would have just
world wide wally
Nov 2023
#108
He made an album copying African-American guitarists. He used a Les Paul and a Marshall Bluesbreaker.
retread
Nov 2023
#114
Dude has been a piece of shit for a very long time, and his music aint all that good either
Voltaire2
Nov 2023
#152
My Father was a Liberal Jew who loved the music of Wagner. He could separate it. But,
mucifer
Nov 2023
#156