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Mad_Machine76

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66. I don't understand it either

Sat Sep 2, 2023, 12:24 AM

Sep 2023

Seems like a lot of MSM/Republican-generated “concern trolling”, just like Biden’s age concerns. Republicans genuinely don’t want to have to run against Biden and the MSM seems to be feeding into their smears against Biden.

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Per AP/NORC poll a whopping 77% think Biden too old to be President [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 OP

Serve everyone pudding Delarage Sep 2023 #1

And yet Biden's health is much better than Trump's VMA131Marine Sep 2023 #2

I know. Johonny Sep 2023 #113

I don't doubt that poll (within some unimportant margin of error) at all. Silent3 Sep 2023 #3

Evidently not good enough to change perception. And worse Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #9

Presuming this perception can be turned around... Silent3 Sep 2023 #11

No perfect person will swoop in and become Democratic nominee FloridaBlues Sep 2023 #4

Ok. So why not try to improve what we've got? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #6

"Improve" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #30

Missing point. We have a perception problem Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #148

Uh, NO. Do you reasearch incumbents have an advantage. And the GOP will tear any candidate Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #53

So solution is to do nothing ? Good idea Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #149

Because it would cause us to lose the election. It always does historically...primarying a sitting Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #121

Well, that argument is only a factor if TFG isn't the GrOPer nominee... RockRaven Sep 2023 #5

What? You're saying the 77% would think differently Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #7

No, I'm saying people motivated by that argument have nowhere to turn to *act* on that argument RockRaven Sep 2023 #14

They could choose to not vote. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2023 #140

I'm confused. MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #48

Get him a cowboy hat and take some BootinUp Sep 2023 #8

Lol Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #13

It sounds funny but BootinUp Sep 2023 #20

THIS!!☝️but i like your cowboy hat idea onetexan Sep 2023 #81

You're right Mysterian Sep 2023 #116

Show him playing arcade games at a state fair. Captain Zero Sep 2023 #46

Agree with last line. I think a good chunk of the 77% will still vote Biden Silent Type Sep 2023 #10

He might not look that old to us but to the young, he's very old womanofthehills Sep 2023 #22

So they have to be inspired to vote, I don't get that part Walleye Sep 2023 #33

+1 Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #43

+1 betsuni Sep 2023 #54

You supported RFK in several posts...so Biden is the nominee and I suggest you do your all in order Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #55

There will ALWAYS be people "not inspired" by the 2 options of the major parties. RandomNumbers Sep 2023 #184

Everything is being done to schedule him for appearances on hopefully "good" days. Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #12

Great. Would love that. But her approvals are worse than Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #16

And RFK's are worse than that ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #83

Newsom's the backup Sympthsical Sep 2023 #17

The problem with Kamala as the backup plan pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #101

What if she's the incumbent? Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #112

Honestly? No, I don't. pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #117

I don't doubt the poll, but that some extrapolate the findings to mean majority won't vote for him. hlthe2b Sep 2023 #15

??? Do you hear what you're saying? 77% think he's too old Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #19

No. I said you are conflating something not in evidence. The poll did not establish that they would hlthe2b Sep 2023 #23

That's fine. Contortion all we got. Kinda was hoping for more Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #25

You don't get it. You have to ask the question whose answer you seek to analyze--not extrapolate hlthe2b Sep 2023 #28

TY! Cha Sep 2023 #29

The survey did ask the question. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #34

Well, then there you go. PANIC TIME. 77% would also likely vote for him! hlthe2b Sep 2023 #37

I'm a Jets fan Polybius Sep 2023 #96

Exactly. Democrats and progressives will vote for the Democratic candidate over trump or any of JohnSJ Sep 2023 #68

Jesus give it a rest. edisdead Sep 2023 #41

Instead of allowing a simple 'yes' or 'no' to the age question Xavier Breath Sep 2023 #21

Yes, Democrats who say he's too old also say they'll vote for him. That's the information betsuni Sep 2023 #61

Fortunately, we have a solution around this Sympthsical Sep 2023 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author tman Sep 2023 #86

Genuinely, what's your ideal solution? Maru Kitteh Sep 2023 #24

The obvious... That our nominee was ahead!!! Ahead Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #31

I don't think you understand what the word solution means. MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #49

Jeez "harping on this a lot" all I did was post a fucking poll. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #182

Post removed Post removed Sep 2023 #26

Very well stated!!! You are quite astute Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #36

He/she isn't here anymore...I wonder what the post said? Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #57

Essentially to get rid of VP Harris, or find another candidate than Biden. In other words, how to JohnSJ Sep 2023 #70

Many who post this stuff...want Kamala Harris gone. And she is doing a great job. It is disgusting. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #123

Yes we do need to support him all the way JohnSJ Sep 2023 #138

Praise for a post that was removed ornotna Sep 2023 #99

Biden would probably lose a good chunk of AA support Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #39

I don't understnd the hatred towards Kamela Harris who is a great VP. We should stop allowing the Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #58

I don't understand it either Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #66

Democrats should stop falling for GOP and media crap...and that includes shitty polls. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #124

+++ JohnSJ Sep 2023 #71

Thank you! Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #125

It's the "Kamala's a Cop" bullshit that circulated during the 2020 primaries AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #168

This is atrocious and would sink him. MyNameIsJonas Sep 2023 #50

Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. triron Sep 2023 #27

Ding, ding Cosmocat Sep 2023 #32

Maybe MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #35

So 77% of people think Biden is too old Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #38

VP Harris would take over if Biden can't serve a full term, and she would be excellent. I cannot JohnSJ Sep 2023 #72

I don't get it either Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #76

An argument that vanishes if drumpf is the nominee Takket Sep 2023 #40

I say wait until he's the nominee. herding cats Sep 2023 #42

You don't have to worry every democrat Tree Lady Sep 2023 #44

WTF?? He's one of the greats. People are fing nuts. Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #45

Has Ap/Norco polled the exact same question for Captain Zero Sep 2023 #47

Apparently they didn't bother to ask if we'd vote for him again despite that Hekate Sep 2023 #51

There have been polls like that. And almost all said they will vote for Biden. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #59

At it again Laura? You didn't like Biden in 20...worthless polls...and Biden is the only Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #52

Well-spotted. It's gotten to be quite a hobby. Hekate Sep 2023 #56

I'll say...so tired of it. Biden will be the nominee. it is too late for anyone with a shot to jump Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #60

Recently one of the columnists in my paper was going on about Kamala's "likability" ... Hekate Sep 2023 #67

I don't think anyone here wants to see her "dumped" Polybius Sep 2023 #95

I like Newome...he is great. But he will not win the rustbelt states we need in order to win the Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #119

So who do you like in 2028? Polybius Sep 2023 #143

Isn't it interesting that females who reach the top treestar Sep 2023 #137

Are you saying an unlikeable male is more successful Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #161

men aren't called unlikeable treestar Sep 2023 #173

Desantis and Rammaswammy, to me, are very unlikeable Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #174

+1 betsuni Sep 2023 #69

The usual "concern" is quite concerning. LowerManhattanite Sep 2023 #77

Ya. Being concerned that 69% of our own party Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #94

As I've told you a million times I was one of the very first people on DU who picked Biden in 2020 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #91

Yeah I don't see the point in worrying about it treestar Sep 2023 #136

I wondered about that Sugarcoated Sep 2023 #142

I think one of the big problems is that EVERYONE on the Republican side, including Poiuyt Sep 2023 #62

+++ JohnSJ Sep 2023 #74

You're too kind to Democrats who say Biden is too old. gulliver Sep 2023 #106

I guess I wasn't clear in my post Poiuyt Sep 2023 #108

Sorry, yes I misuderstood gulliver Sep 2023 #109

Geesh! Just because someone may think Biden is too old doesn't mean they'll vote for trump PSPS Sep 2023 #63

+++. The MSM spend two years spewing Biden is too old, then the pollsters ask "do they think JohnSJ Sep 2023 #65

This! I do have concerns about Joe's age, but if he gets our nod he gets my vote Amishman Sep 2023 #84

How many of those 77% would never vote for a Democrat? and more important, how many of those JohnSJ Sep 2023 #64

That won't necessarily mean he won't be the best candidate. Renew Deal Sep 2023 #73

is a link too much to ask? Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #75

Sorry. Here's the link Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #93

How do you reduce it? A makeover and a little bit of coaching ecstatic Sep 2023 #78

Hmmm... liberalmediaaddict Sep 2023 #79

And just like that, policy disappears, replaced by "But he's old." betsuni Sep 2023 #80

I'll just ask this: DFW Sep 2023 #82

Thanks for your always sensible posts. n/t shrike3 Sep 2023 #103

The opinions are often divided on that, but when the time comes to cast a vote next year.... DFW Sep 2023 #105

I feel the same way. shrike3 Sep 2023 #107

Technical Issues I Have With This Poll ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #85

The number's just an easier argument Sympthsical Sep 2023 #90

Looking to see if age distribution. But here's another breakdown Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #92

That is actually good news because an earlier poll found that Democrats would still vote for Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #127

Sounds serious. Torchlight Sep 2023 #87

Here we go again.... Kingofalldems Sep 2023 #88

Should we give up and let Trump take over? Kingofalldems Sep 2023 #89

He's got 10x the energy of most of the people polled flamingdem Sep 2023 #97

Eisenhower was reelected after a massive heart attack in office. LudwigPastorius Sep 2023 #98

The only shocking thing about that poll pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #100

Hmmm, you managed to get digs in to both Biden and Harris...quite a post. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #132

Thank you for your realism!!! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #163

Look at the contrast between Republicans and Democrats karynnj Sep 2023 #102

I assume you want another nominee? Why you posted this thread? shrike3 Sep 2023 #104

Huh? Perception issue. Can ignore or raise ideas on Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #114

Why the "huh?" Why else would you post this? shrike3 Sep 2023 #139

Snark not warranting response Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #141

So, I assume you have no suggestions. shrike3 Sep 2023 #146

Missing whole point. We have a huge perception issue. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #147

What are your suggestions/ideas, re the perception problem? shrike3 Sep 2023 #166

Maybe a really good interview without obvious canned questions??? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #172

Okay. Decent suggestion, I think. Thanks. shrike3 Sep 2023 #179

So what do you think is wrong? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #181

This thread pretty much covers it. shrike3 Sep 2023 #185

Ya read that. Odd because article's pretty much saying Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #186

SMH. Look at the Democrats who just don't get political polls. Republicans get them. gulliver Sep 2023 #110

It's ok to think that he's too old to run again Polybius Sep 2023 #111

Biden needs more time on TV Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #115

Exactly. And thanks for staying on topic!!! To me the Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #176

I think it's an issue but we always knew it would be. But here is the question... Buckeyeblue Sep 2023 #118

And an earlier version of the same polls...showed voters would still vote for him...it is on google. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #120

I agree his age is beyond what should be allowed budkin Sep 2023 #122

There is no age maximum in regards to elections...nor do I think there should be. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #129

What's the % on Trump being too old? Brainfodder Sep 2023 #126

He is too old. Edim Sep 2023 #128

Um No. I suggest you support the Democratic candidate who has done a great job. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #130

It's not discrimination. Is retirement age discrimination? Edim Sep 2023 #131

It's not too old, and it depends on the person... SKKY Sep 2023 #133

I agree that there are old people who are healthy and Edim Sep 2023 #134

Right win rag Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #150

So they also asked the question about TFG? treestar Sep 2023 #135

They are prob being honest, but Catherine Vincent Sep 2023 #144

We need to stop paying attention to this crap. Mcconnell is literally freezing up and they complain onetexan Sep 2023 #145

Follow up, how do you feel about Senators and Reps even older than Biden? Brainfodder Sep 2023 #151

Miss point. It's about perception. NOT accuracy. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #152

That wasn't lost on me either, silly games, the silly prizes phase has only just begun! Brainfodder Sep 2023 #153

I wouldn't assume that. brooklynite Sep 2023 #156

Point of no return? On flips? Except maybe when they are close Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #164

The point is that most of these losers have nothing to offer that Smith doesn't know. brooklynite Sep 2023 #167

Ya I was talking leverage and the point you exit the dangerous Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #171

Bernie supporters and Trump supporters flamingdem Sep 2023 #154

Bernie supporters have nothing to do with this AntivaxHunters Sep 2023 #157

Yes they do. I read about them hating on Biden in other forums flamingdem Sep 2023 #158

Why then bring it here? Go back there. Emile Sep 2023 #160

Of course, THOSE leftists being spoke of are not Democrats. Hortensis Sep 2023 #169

So true! flamingdem Sep 2023 #170

Sure AntivaxHunters Sep 2023 #177

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #175

Amen. Nixie Sep 2023 #183

Where is the poll on whether Trump is too old? Emile Sep 2023 #155

This is an actual problem Calculating Sep 2023 #159

They want someone "relatable"? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2023 #162

Yup. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #165

And if they were represented by someone "relatable" and young they'd still complain. betsuni Sep 2023 #178

Was there a point MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #180