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AZLD4Candidate

(5,690 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 06:43 AM Aug 2023

Dealing with mental illness: Two steps forward, one step back for a lifetime because we deserve it [View all]

Yes, I have been very open about myself on this website.

It started when my wife was denied entry into the country because of whatever reason CBP invented at SEATAC. It continued with my struggles to get my wife her green card and the fact I had to give up teaching in the US and my attempted run for AZ House because I couldn't bare dealing with being separated anymore because of the US Government.

It dictated how all of that broke me emotionally and psychologically and I suffered a suicidal nervous breakdown because of it. I am bipolar (severely). I am Asperger's. I have body dysmorphic disorder after being called fat, ugly, and disgusted by most EVERYONE I have come in contact with, including family. I suffer from extreme PTSD from childhood abuse, intensity bullying, anti-Jewish violence, and workplace bullying/abuse.

I have stated many times when there is a mass shooting that being an asshole isn't a mental illness. Mentally ill people normally direct their trauma inward and attack themselves. The most common:

1: Bipolar - we are crap in our own eyes and the only way we can deal with how low we are is to abuse ourselves because we deserve it.

2: Borderline - our personality was stolen from us before we developed it so we attach ourselves to whomever says they love us even if it destroys us, then we will push you away and hope you will stay but we know we deserve to be hurt and abandoned because we deserve it.

3: PTSD - we can't process the trauma we've encountered, so we abuse ourselves because we deserve it.

4: Eating disorders - we can't process the trauma we've encountered, so we take it out on our bodies because we deserve it.

5: OCD - we can't process the trauma we've encountered, so we isolate ourselves and push people away because we deserve it.


We are substance abusers because it's an escape. We end our lives because it's an escape for those we know we are destroying.

And we deserve it. After all, according to society, all we need to do is get over it, grow up, get help, and we'll be fine. It doesn't work that way. We are always fighting that monster in our heads that controls us. We hear it louder than anything else. We hear that monster's words and ideas louder because it's how we see ourselves when we look in a mirror.

Compliments are fake. They aren't real. The monster told us that and we listen. Praise is just a way to set you up for failure. The monster tells us that and we listen. The monster controls us. I know in our world of "free will" and "you decide for yourself" that society rejects this idea, but as someone who has bipolar run in his family, as someone who has attempted suicide a few times, as someone who has pushed almost everyone out of his life because he doesn't deserve happiness, I am here to tell you that free will doesn't exist in mental illness.

The monster says it, we believe it. The monster controls us, we do it. Medication, therapy. . .all wonderful, but to be honest, it doesn't do much. The monster is still there because mental illness is just that. . .mental. We don't know anything about it. Medication either stabilizes you, makes you a zombie, or deals with symptoms, not the cause or root. It's like cold medication. No cold medicine cures the cold, it just deals with the "cold symptoms."

As I write this, I feel myself sinking into another depressive episode. I feel it coming on. I feel the anger. I feel the hopelessness. I see the darkness growing. I am on medication, but it isn't stopping it. I am on cymbalta, paxil, trazodone, and ativain.

Mental illness isn't about "getting help." It's so much more. But thanks to how we treat mental illness in the world, we are looked at in the simplest, easiest ways possible:

1: you like feeling this way because you're used to it.
2: you want to feel this way because you just want sympathy
3: you refuse to get over it because you're weak
4: you just want drama in your life because you feed off it
5: you are a man. act like one.
6: you don't have a problem. you are the problem
7: you're too much negativity. go away until you can put a smile on my face
8: you're an adult. deal with it like an adult will.
9: shut up and suck it up. everyone has problems.


So, next time someone claims mental illness when someone does something horrific, remember that those of us with mental illness destroy ourselves.

As I write this, the darkness is growing. I feel there is no escape. The monster has control now. And it's telling me how to think and feel. And it tells me I deserve it all.
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You do not deserve pain and misery, I can tell by your writing that you are a thoughtful considerate Walleye Aug 2023 #1
Very well articulated. intrepidity Aug 2023 #2
I remember depression well... Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #3
Logged to to rec berniesandersmittens Aug 2023 #4
A big problem with mental illness is that the mentally ill dictate the treatment Kaleva Aug 2023 #5
I can tell you I wish that had been the case with the many times I sought help. It wasn't. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2023 #9
I understand it's an illness Kaleva Aug 2023 #11
As someone who lived with a bi-polar for 20 years DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #6
Yet, I use the word "normally." Exceptions to the rule are NOT the rule. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #7
I don't believe what you describe is "normal" DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #15
Well, you have your opinion. I have medical science. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #16
I wish I'd had that book years ago. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #18
Thank you. The lies and manipulative behavior are difficult to tolerate. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #35
That book is about people with Borderline Personality Disorder. yardwork Aug 2023 #38
Bi-Polar almost always has a co-morbidity DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #48
Bi-Polar almost always has a co-morbidity DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #49
Do you mean Borderline Personality Disorder instead of Bi-Polar? yardwork Aug 2023 #39
She is bi-polar DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #45
I'm so sorry. yardwork Aug 2023 #46
Not an ex DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #47
HAH! OldBaldy1701E Aug 2023 #8
pro tip if you have a friend who suffers from mi- mopinko Aug 2023 #10
Unfortunately, they often reject the help offered Kaleva Aug 2023 #12
i saw this on fb the other day. it's about grief, but the same cld b said for mi- mopinko Aug 2023 #19
Grief and mental illness are not the same thing Kaleva Aug 2023 #26
of course not. but the problem of not knowing how to help, mopinko Aug 2023 #27
I think your post provided great insights on helping those in grief. Kaleva Aug 2023 #32
did u miss the part that i suffer from depression? mopinko Aug 2023 #33
Clinical depression cannot be helped by offers of help Kaleva Aug 2023 #43
Not at all the same thing. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #28
True. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #36
Jeez, I wish I were a healer..... Karadeniz Aug 2023 #13
Well said wendyb-NC Aug 2023 #14
Thank you MAJones Aug 2023 #17
Not unlike an LSD trip unless you have been there you cannot understand. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #20
One hell of a good post. n/t LuckyCharms Aug 2023 #21
"cymbalta, paxil, trazodone, and ativain" Sympthsical Aug 2023 #22
Yes, I'm no doctor, but that looks to be a troublesome cocktail. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #23
I just finished an extensive pharmacology program Sympthsical Aug 2023 #24
I've got no background in pharmacology or medicine, but even I was familiar with those drug names. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #25
I think that too. unforunately, that's how mental health works AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #30
Sound advice. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #37
Books help me. nt BWdem4life Aug 2023 #29
Since she was 17, my daughter has been diagnosed as schizoaffective: schizophrenia & bipolar. elocs Aug 2023 #31
omg. that's hideous. mopinko Aug 2023 #34
I have a broken relationship with my father, but he was abusive even into adulthood AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #41
i absolutely understand that. mopinko Aug 2023 #42
I'm sorry that you're in so much pain. yardwork Aug 2023 #40
I'm bipolar too, and recently went through a depression. crosinski Aug 2023 #44
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