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In reply to the discussion: I smell a big fat KGB rat in all this. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(15,033 posts)96. Why conspiracy theorists and the Kremlin echo each other's disinformation
Last edited Thu May 11, 2023, 06:10 PM - Edit history (1)
Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, Western conspiracy theorists and the Kremlin have each spread similar disinformation online.William Audureau
Le Monde, News Analysis, March 3, 2023
Look at what they're doing with their own people!" In his address to the nation on February 21, Vladimir Putin accused the West of having made pedophilia "the norm." A wild attack typical of the Kremlin leader, but one which resonated with the most far-out conspiracy circles, such as the QAnon community which spreads disinformation about pedophile elites in the White House.
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The convergence has reached the point where the two circles now feed each other, in an incessant back and forth. "What is difficult," observed Pierre-André Taguieff, political scientist and author of several books on conspiracy, "is to distinguish between propaganda manufactured by Kremlin strategists and the multitude of Russian and French conspiracy circles that gravitate to them and can be manipulated."
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During the Soviet era, the USSR financed the publication of several books attributing the assassination of J. F. Kennedy to an American conspiracy, and then, in the 1980s, spread the rumor that HIV was an artificial virus created by the United States. Behind this subversive approach is a strategy that international relations researchers now call "sharp power," a venomous counterpoint to the more benevolent and sunny "soft power."
"When you can't subjugate people using the appeal of your own model, you have to undermine the allegiance of the citizens [of foreign countries] to their own system," Rudy Reichstadt explained. And the conspiracy scene, this machine for hating existing elites and democratic institutions, is a perfect channel.
Seen in this way, the novelty lies less in the originality of the process than in the scale and systematization of the phenomenon, facilitated by the polarization of political life, the acceleration of transmission of information through social media, and the possibility of easily flooding these sites. In 2018, Twitter identified nine million tweets linked to Russian disinformation, while in the fall of 2022, Facebook announced the dismantling of two Russian and Chinese disinformation networks.
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https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/03/02/conspiracy-theorists-the-kremlin-echo-each-other-s-disinformation_6017960_8.html
PS: Mixing truth with falsehood they divide and conquer.
PPS: It sure WAS an American based conspiracy behind the assassination of JFK. He HATED NAZIs, warmongers and traitors.
Most importantly: Thank you, m.
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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#2
If the Devil changed his name from Lucifer to Bob, does that mean the devil no longer exists?
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#13
It's very simplistic. Just try calling it for what it is not what you think it is.
JanMichael
May 2023
#14
Highlighting just because the KGB does not exist in name does not mean it ceases to exist in spirit.
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#16
Would you have preferred : Russian Intelligence Services and their myriad of Sections Heads of
msfiddlestix
May 2023
#88
Thank you for the history review. This is info that Jack Smith is well aware of.
ancianita
May 2023
#25
KBG??...you try to dilute..BTW, it WAS the KGB.. same shit, different pile..
asiliveandbreathe
May 2023
#15
Like "Elvis isn't dead. He just went home." (Men in Black), the KGB simply changed their name.
paleotn
May 2023
#34
Apparently some commentators on this forum don't understand innuendo. KGB eq FSB
erronis
May 2023
#8
Nope. The FSB (former KGB) is internal (kinda like FBI) and GRU is international military intel.
ancianita
May 2023
#28
Please link the timeline. While they now exist simultaneously, the KGB were prior to the GRU.
ancianita
May 2023
#49
I love the deflection going on here. "The gun that killed 12 people wasn't really an assault weapon"
NBachers
May 2023
#29
The NRA is basically insolvent. It has maxed out its line of credit which it had been using .....
mjvpi
May 2023
#41
I've seriously been wondering how much right wing propaganda has originated from Russia.
Initech
May 2023
#47
Since Murdoch has been busy in Aus, Eng, USA, elsewhere - wouldn't we look at his family
erronis
May 2023
#56
Funny -- that we have no "honest and true" press is ALSO Russian propaganda warfare.
Hortensis
May 2023
#80