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In reply to the discussion: I smell a big fat KGB rat in all this. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(15,033 posts)82. The NRA Can't Erase Its Ties to a Russian Agent Who Targeted Ukraine
Leaders of the gun group long embraced a Kremlin operative who openly backed Putins military conquest.
Mark Follman, National Affairs Editor
The Nation, March 10, 2022
Four days into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the political arm of the National Rifle Association published an article praising a valiant Ukranian army and resistance from ordinary Ukrainians taking up arms to defend their country and communities. Since early February, the gun lobbying group had used the coming war as an opportunity to talk up gun rights. What is happening in Ukraine proves the wisdom of our founding fathers in drafting the Second Amendment, the NRA now reiterated as the bloodshed grew, a right essential to preserving human dignity, self-destiny and freedom.
Forgotten in the face of Vladimir Putins barbaric attack, it seems, were the cozy ties between top NRA officials and convicted Russian agent Maria Butina. The Kremlin operative didnt just commit conspiracy against the United Statesshe also worked on behalf of Putins military conquest in the Ukraine region during the same period she was forging alliances, both in the US and in Moscow, with NRA leaders.
Butina is best known for infiltrating the Republican Party and seeking to influence the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump. She cultivated relationships among the conservative movement alongside her boss, Alexander Torshin, a high-level official from Putins party who donated to the NRA as a life member and later was sanctioned by the US government. After Butinas downfall, the NRA sought to distance itself and claimed it had no knowledge of Butinas foreign activities. But as I and my colleague Hannah Levintova reported in a 2019 investigation, while Butina was spending time with NRA leaders David Keene, Wayne LaPierre and others, information publicly available on social media and from other sources made clear that Butina was aggressively working against US national security interests:
After serving most of an 18-month federal prison sentence, Butina was deported to her native country in October 2019. Putin personally defended Butina, declaring that the US had nothing on her and had convicted her in order not to look totally stupid. By last fall, at age 33, she began serving in the Russian parliament as a member of Putins United Russia party.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/
The NRA cant undo history. They cant escape the truth. And they cant escape their roles as traitors.
Mark Follman, National Affairs Editor
The Nation, March 10, 2022
Four days into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the political arm of the National Rifle Association published an article praising a valiant Ukranian army and resistance from ordinary Ukrainians taking up arms to defend their country and communities. Since early February, the gun lobbying group had used the coming war as an opportunity to talk up gun rights. What is happening in Ukraine proves the wisdom of our founding fathers in drafting the Second Amendment, the NRA now reiterated as the bloodshed grew, a right essential to preserving human dignity, self-destiny and freedom.
Forgotten in the face of Vladimir Putins barbaric attack, it seems, were the cozy ties between top NRA officials and convicted Russian agent Maria Butina. The Kremlin operative didnt just commit conspiracy against the United Statesshe also worked on behalf of Putins military conquest in the Ukraine region during the same period she was forging alliances, both in the US and in Moscow, with NRA leaders.
Butina is best known for infiltrating the Republican Party and seeking to influence the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump. She cultivated relationships among the conservative movement alongside her boss, Alexander Torshin, a high-level official from Putins party who donated to the NRA as a life member and later was sanctioned by the US government. After Butinas downfall, the NRA sought to distance itself and claimed it had no knowledge of Butinas foreign activities. But as I and my colleague Hannah Levintova reported in a 2019 investigation, while Butina was spending time with NRA leaders David Keene, Wayne LaPierre and others, information publicly available on social media and from other sources made clear that Butina was aggressively working against US national security interests:
Mother Jones has uncovered a trail of activity showing that during the same period when top NRA leaders welcomed Butina into the foldmeeting with her extensively in Moscow and the United StatesButina actively supported Russian President Vladimir Putins military takeover of Crimea. In the immediate aftermath of the invasion and annexation in March 2014, Butina denounced retaliatory sanctions by the Obama administration and traveled to Crimea to promote the arming of pro-Russian separatists. Her efforts there included pledging support to a leader of a militia group that violently seized a Crimean news outlet it deemed pro-American and swiftly repurposed for a Kremlin propaganda operation.
After serving most of an 18-month federal prison sentence, Butina was deported to her native country in October 2019. Putin personally defended Butina, declaring that the US had nothing on her and had convicted her in order not to look totally stupid. By last fall, at age 33, she began serving in the Russian parliament as a member of Putins United Russia party.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/
The NRA cant undo history. They cant escape the truth. And they cant escape their roles as traitors.
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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#2
If the Devil changed his name from Lucifer to Bob, does that mean the devil no longer exists?
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#13
It's very simplistic. Just try calling it for what it is not what you think it is.
JanMichael
May 2023
#14
Highlighting just because the KGB does not exist in name does not mean it ceases to exist in spirit.
Progressive Lawyer
May 2023
#16
Would you have preferred : Russian Intelligence Services and their myriad of Sections Heads of
msfiddlestix
May 2023
#88
Thank you for the history review. This is info that Jack Smith is well aware of.
ancianita
May 2023
#25
KBG??...you try to dilute..BTW, it WAS the KGB.. same shit, different pile..
asiliveandbreathe
May 2023
#15
Like "Elvis isn't dead. He just went home." (Men in Black), the KGB simply changed their name.
paleotn
May 2023
#34
Apparently some commentators on this forum don't understand innuendo. KGB eq FSB
erronis
May 2023
#8
Nope. The FSB (former KGB) is internal (kinda like FBI) and GRU is international military intel.
ancianita
May 2023
#28
Please link the timeline. While they now exist simultaneously, the KGB were prior to the GRU.
ancianita
May 2023
#49
I love the deflection going on here. "The gun that killed 12 people wasn't really an assault weapon"
NBachers
May 2023
#29
The NRA is basically insolvent. It has maxed out its line of credit which it had been using .....
mjvpi
May 2023
#41
I've seriously been wondering how much right wing propaganda has originated from Russia.
Initech
May 2023
#47
Since Murdoch has been busy in Aus, Eng, USA, elsewhere - wouldn't we look at his family
erronis
May 2023
#56
Funny -- that we have no "honest and true" press is ALSO Russian propaganda warfare.
Hortensis
May 2023
#80