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20. One has nothing to do with the other

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 09:53 PM

Jul 2022

If you care about this issue then focus on changing it but stop with the bs about how it has anything to do with elections.

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Why the Hell Isn't Biden Ending the Federal War on Cannabis? [View all] JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 OP

I want that too. padfun Jul 2022 #1

Take it up with your Senator Hekate Jul 2022 #28

At least Obama ordered it to be the last thing prosecuted questionseverything Jul 2022 #34

Quit bashing Joe jmbar2 Jul 2022 #2

I'm not "bashing",... JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 #5

Pure Biden bashing Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #7

So pointing out facts is "bashing"? Doc Sportello Jul 2022 #12

No it's not. Did he or did he not run on this? nt GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #17

I recall that he ran on "restoring the soul of America" after Trump. TFG left a lot of damage... Hekate Jul 2022 #23

Yeah, and he ran on this too, no? GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #47

No, Biden did not run on unilaterally ending the "federal war on cannabis". lapucelle Jul 2022 #190

Nobody runs "unilaterally" on anything for POTUS. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #203

So the answer to your question remains "No, Biden did not run on this." lapucelle Jul 2022 #204

He had an ad in which he promised to decriminalize weed. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #209

Candidate Biden promised to "work to to decriminalize marijuana". lapucelle Jul 2022 #214

"Personal pet project"? AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #53

Which of the 30 doctors that you mention in your profile am I speaking with TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #83

Now respond to the second paragraph Lordquinton Jul 2022 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #92

Awful response AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #104

And an awful reply that is inconsiderate of the rights of others and plays the race card. TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #124

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #126

Bravo inthewind21 Jul 2022 #167

How the hell would legalizing mj infringe on the rights of others Calculating Jul 2022 #200

Is it a victimless crime if someone is spending money on weed rather than on necessities? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #224

Wouldn't all of that apply to alcohol, gambling etc? Calculating Jul 2022 #230

To begin with, don't insult me by calling me a social conservative TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #235

Social conservative thinking has always been about limiting vices Calculating Jul 2022 #237

LOL. TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #239

Shouldn't people have freedom to grow and use a plant Calculating Jul 2022 #241

More rationalization because of a resentment? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #242

Thank you for directing me to that info, TT! I didn't know the TOS allowed a consortium to post... Hekate Jul 2022 #243

And, why would 30 doctors use an apostrophe on "doctor's" Maru Kitteh Jul 2022 #256

Is there anyone we can actually ask about that? Hekate Jul 2022 #276

Either Congress or the D.E.A. can reschedule cannabis ripcord Jul 2022 #94

Biden said: "As president I'll work to decriminalize marijuana! Emile Jul 2022 #112

Did he say he'd do it by July 2022? mcar Jul 2022 #157

How long does it take to ask the DEA to reschedule weed? Emile Jul 2022 #158

SMH inthewind21 Jul 2022 #168

No. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #160

See response no. 69 GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #181

Oh. My bad. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #191

Uh huh. He "mentioned it". GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #197

No, Biden did not run on a promise of magically decriminalizing pot through an executive order. lapucelle Jul 2022 #185

Come on. You know I didn't say that. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #193

Sorry, but that's a distinction without a difference. lapucelle Jul 2022 #202

Sorry, but it's not very convincing. He promised some action. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #207

Glad it's finally clear that Biden never promised to unilaterally end the federal war on cannibis, lapucelle Jul 2022 #211

I'll look forward to the action he did promise. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #212

TY, lapucelle Hekate Jul 2022 #245

lol no it's not AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #50

It's bashing to point out something he ran on? BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #121

He ran on legalizing marijuana? BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #159

It was explained elsewhere in the thread. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #178

So he didn't actually run on it then. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #186

Um, he had an ad saying he would decriminalize weed? BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #208

Here ya go. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #182

Nah, you're bashing, & so is the author of the article you quote Hekate Jul 2022 #18

Article should be renamed 'Don't worry about democracy, we need legal weed NOW!!!!' n/t Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #116

Right inthewind21 Jul 2022 #169

you are bashing Shellback Squid Jul 2022 #102

It's "bashgesting' n/t Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #115

Bashing. betsuni Jul 2022 #120

hey joe's got time to go "visit" the saudis he's got time to keep campaign promises at home nt msongs Jul 2022 #11

Ya think he'll get photographed waving a golden saber & caressing a lit-up crystal globe like TFG? Hekate Jul 2022 #24

When did he promise to legalize pot? iemanja Jul 2022 #52

He talked about decriminalization questionseverything Jul 2022 #76

It's literally a matter of a stroke of a pen questionseverything Jul 2022 #25

###Error message Hekate Jul 2022 #29

If our democratic president would do things that are popular questionseverything Jul 2022 #31

That is hilarious, given the politics of this benighted nation Hekate Jul 2022 #38

Over 70% of the nation want it legalized questionseverything Jul 2022 #39

Jesus Calculating Jul 2022 #201

Eo don't expire just because the president changes questionseverything Jul 2022 #37

That's not true. A future president can revoke a previous EO, but it doesn't expire. tritsofme Jul 2022 #46

It's the dea that decides and Biden clearly has authority to direct the dea questionseverything Jul 2022 #74

That is false. Please stop spreading misinformation. Mariana Jul 2022 #251

No. EO's stay active until rescinded. fescuerescue Jul 2022 #253

Yes. But all those efforts are currently not successful fescuerescue Jul 2022 #252

Ending the war on cannabis is not going to impact the 2022 or 2024 elections. TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #3

We need to do it... JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 #6

So do we have 60 votes in the Senate so that the bill won't get filibustered? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #13

There is some interest on the GOP side for changes on cannibis In It to Win It Jul 2022 #15

Its not the 70's robodruid1 Jul 2022 #16

I don't disagree In It to Win It Jul 2022 #21

WaPo article 4 years ago says she no longer opposes legalization Hekate Jul 2022 #35

I stand corrected then In It to Win It Jul 2022 #42

What does your Senator say? Can they go up against Mitch McConnell? Hekate Jul 2022 #30

You don't know that Doc Sportello Jul 2022 #14

Like most elections, the economy and financial issues will take priority over social issues. TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #32

Like most elections there will be close ones Doc Sportello Jul 2022 #40

So what proof do you have that President Biden isn't talking to the legislators about the bill? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #48

You're veering off topic Doc Sportello Jul 2022 #226

Do you have more current information? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #233

He could do an eo taking it off the schedule 1 list questionseverything Jul 2022 #41

No way TheFarseer Jul 2022 #19

You couldn't be more out of touch questionseverything Jul 2022 #26

I met up with a young person today. TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #43

They are asking for things he campaigned on and can easily be moved in a positive direction questionseverything Jul 2022 #57

Yes, Biden can sign an executive order TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #68

I'm not so sure about that AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #55

None of that information supports the position that people are more likely to vote for a TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #61

People vote for who best represents them AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #65

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Jul 2022 #81

Cuz he old. dclarston13 Jul 2022 #4

Not funny at all Hekate Jul 2022 #36

Stop Being an Ageist. Cha Jul 2022 #45

"Cuz he old." BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #166

Allow me to elaborate dclarston13 Jul 2022 #261

Bob Marley had it right- Legalize It. Snarkoleptic Jul 2022 #8

It is Peter Tosh Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #10

So did the Feds at one time - 80 years ago Caribbeans Jul 2022 #60

+1 million Arazi Jul 2022 #9

One has nothing to do with the other JI7 Jul 2022 #20

I question why, in the face of all the exigent problems before the world, this one matters. NNadir Jul 2022 #22

Reading thru this thread I get a strong whiff of bothsiderism, among other garbage.... Hekate Jul 2022 #27

People are anxious about paying bills, higher rent, food, gas , covid womanofthehills Jul 2022 #63

Thank you AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #105

Ahhh inthewind21 Jul 2022 #171

Yes, it is important to people who want it legal Calculating Jul 2022 #206

This rote response is tiresome. NNadir Jul 2022 #210

You know how many black people are persecuted over cannabis? Calculating Jul 2022 #215

It probably matters to those incarcerated for pot offenses Doc Sportello Jul 2022 #229

I don't believe that anyone should be in prison for drug abuse, unless, of course, they kill... NNadir Jul 2022 #236

" all signs continue to indicate that his party will be pulverized this fall. " Takket Jul 2022 #33

Trashing this OP! PortTack Jul 2022 #44

I smoke a lot of weed... Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #49

The central issue of our time iemanja Jul 2022 #51

It's not only about getting high AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #56

This is about recreational marijuana, not medicinal iemanja Jul 2022 #59

Wrong AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #62

This is guaranteed to lose voters iemanja Jul 2022 #64

lol Decriminalizing weed will NOT lose voters AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #67

We are talking about a federal election iemanja Jul 2022 #70

So what you are saying is that campaign promises don't matter after you get elected ripcord Jul 2022 #82

No, but how do you propose he decriminalize marijuana iemanja Jul 2022 #88

It doesn't require congressional approval ripcord Jul 2022 #93

I guess you'll just have to vote Republican iemanja Jul 2022 #192

Show me evidence that says it doesn't motivate voters AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #106

Are you seriously arguing that the stoner MAGATS iemanja Jul 2022 #196

No. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #98

You're using it now inthewind21 Jul 2022 #174

Legal cannabis and students loans are becoming pipe dreams ripcord Jul 2022 #54

I'd like to see some evidence the President promised to legalize pot iemanja Jul 2022 #66

Here's a video AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #69

Ok, tell me this iemanja Jul 2022 #72

Hey, bring those goal posts back here! Lordquinton Jul 2022 #87

What am I supposed to admit defeat about? iemanja Jul 2022 #89

Oh, it's the semantic game now Lordquinton Jul 2022 #103

... betsuni Jul 2022 #111

And there it is inthewind21 Jul 2022 #175

Talk about twisting words iemanja Jul 2022 #188

As you were shown above AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #109

That doesn't address the question of how it becomes law iemanja Jul 2022 #194

Right?! herding cats Jul 2022 #58

You know it's possible to multitask and pick the low hanging fruit Calculating Jul 2022 #216

I would say a lot has to do with support from the LE and intelligence communities LT Barclay Jul 2022 #71

It make sense to do it, economic sense. Growers could start using banks instead of buying up yaesu Jul 2022 #73

Good point questionseverything Jul 2022 #80

May I suggest inthewind21 Jul 2022 #176

lol, whatever nt yaesu Jul 2022 #179

I will YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #75

And I'll.... JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 #86

Boo hoo. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #164

It's a win/win AdamGG Jul 2022 #77

Taking it off schedule 1 would be so easy questionseverything Jul 2022 #248

It would definitely give us a boost SunImp Jul 2022 #263

To take it off the schedule 1 list doesn't require a vote questionseverything Jul 2022 #264

It's not as simple as waving a magic wand Major Nikon Jul 2022 #78

If it's something that would be popular, then it's politically important AdamGG Jul 2022 #99

That's a question for Congress Major Nikon Jul 2022 #269

He can direct the dea to schedule mj correctly at level 5 questionseverything Jul 2022 #249

The Controlled Substances Act says he can't Major Nikon Jul 2022 #268

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #79

Take it from the Canadian, legalized weed is huge. Steve Canuck Jul 2022 #84

Legalize it now. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #85

How do you propose he do that? iemanja Jul 2022 #90

Have the D.E.A. reschedule it ripcord Jul 2022 #96

Can this be done as executive action without Congress? AdamGG Jul 2022 #101

No Major Nikon Jul 2022 #270

By what legal means? iemanja Jul 2022 #183

It can be rescheduled by Congress or the DEA ripcord Jul 2022 #184

How can Biden do that? iemanja Jul 2022 #198

Yes he can questionseverything Jul 2022 #265

It doesn't work that way Major Nikon Jul 2022 #271

It would probably be easier to get through the House/Senate than voting rights AdamGG Jul 2022 #273

A politician saying "I'll work to" do something isn't But Daddy Promised I Hate Daddy material. betsuni Jul 2022 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #100

Perhaps it's not the top issue in his mind; or on that of the voters? brooklynite Jul 2022 #107

Legalization seems rather popular. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2022 #232

So we shouldn't expect campaign promises to be kept unless they make the top of some imaginary list? questionseverything Jul 2022 #267

When did Biden or Pelosi or Schumer promise to legalize marijuana? brooklynite Jul 2022 #272

Come on Joe, it's on the DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM! Emile Jul 2022 #108

Maybe because he's busy trying to end the war on democracy? Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #110

Is Joe on the Jan 6 committee? Emile Jul 2022 #113

Are you for real? Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #114

Yes, I just pinched myself, I am real! Prioritisation is Emile Jul 2022 #117

Yeah, but I think there may be a few far higher priorities... Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #119

We been hearing excuses for how many years? Please, Emile Jul 2022 #123

Same excuse used for decades to block progress AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #125

Since when is not having the votes an "excuse"? betsuni Jul 2022 #128

What? Emile Jul 2022 #132

Not. Having. The. Votes. Not. Having. Large. Democratic. Majorities. betsuni Jul 2022 #133

What? Emile Jul 2022 #135

You see, when a party doesn't have enough votes, legislature can't get passed. betsuni Jul 2022 #138

Excuses Emile Jul 2022 #139

... betsuni Jul 2022 #141

It can be rescheduled by the DEA, Congress isn't needed ripcord Jul 2022 #155

Exactly Calculating Jul 2022 #213

What's the huge reason you lag behind the rest of the world? Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #130

Well said PatSeg Jul 2022 #189

Tell that to the 100,000 kids in foster care because their parents are in prison questionseverything Jul 2022 #266

They're not mutually exclusive. Recategorizing weed from being a schedule 1 controlled substance AdamGG Jul 2022 #250

Simple. He is still an anti-weed drug warrior at heart. Everyone knew that when they voted for him. Celerity Jul 2022 #118

Reefer Madness! Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #145

Sweden has not been Tubi-blessed, lol Celerity Jul 2022 #147

Found it on YouTube! Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #148

+1000 Celerity Jul 2022 #149

I didn't know this when I voted for him LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #227

Decriminalising yes, he would sign, but not at all sure on full legalisation. Celerity Jul 2022 #234

Has anyone given a clear answer yet? superpatriotman Jul 2022 #122

Just excuses. Emile Jul 2022 #127

How so? Since when have Democrats had very large supermajorities? betsuni Jul 2022 #129

What? Emile Jul 2022 #131

Betsuni is referring to the filibuster... Violet_Crumble Jul 2022 #134

Not. Having. The. Votes. betsuni Jul 2022 #136

What? Emile Jul 2022 #137

It's the way the government works. betsuni Jul 2022 #140

It is called an excuse! Emile Jul 2022 #142

How does a party get legislature passed without enough votes? betsuni Jul 2022 #143

Still making excuses! Emile Jul 2022 #144

... betsuni Jul 2022 #146

Why did you post that? Emile Jul 2022 #150

... betsuni Jul 2022 #151

You tube videos will not play on my outdated tablet. Emile Jul 2022 #152

What? betsuni Jul 2022 #154

What? inthewind21 Jul 2022 #177

What? lapucelle Jul 2022 #205

He can do it at the executive level Calculating Jul 2022 #217

Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #153

I fully support President Biden, but a little Emile Jul 2022 #156

What? inthewind21 Jul 2022 #180

I suspect it's because he has lots of truly important shit to deal with. MineralMan Jul 2022 #161

Excactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #173

Yeah Calculating Jul 2022 #219

I got mine? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #231

So democrats in red states can go pound sand because Emile Jul 2022 #221

Not my blue state of Minnesota. MineralMan Jul 2022 #223

Yep, it's called priorities PatSeg Jul 2022 #187

It needs to be fixed at the federal level though Calculating Jul 2022 #218

The answer to that and to everything else is MineralMan Jul 2022 #222

Of all the things in the world to hard focus on.. this is not one of them Peacetrain Jul 2022 #162

So it just never gets fixed? Calculating Jul 2022 #220

I think he can squeeze it in between 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2022 #163

Rational drug laws? Mysterian Jul 2022 #165

Trashing...I am sure if we make enough noise about this, Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #170

Should be a low priority, many others more important USALiberal Jul 2022 #172

Justice a low priority? Mysterian Jul 2022 #254

No idea why, it's absolutely maddening Calculating Jul 2022 #195

I think if Congress passes a bill legalizing or decriminalizing pot, he will sign it LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #228

He is likely working on it, but from behind the curtain. 57sneirno Jul 2022 #199

Like in Oregon, no worries here RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #225

If you show disrespect for President Biden, it encourages disrespect for him. gulliver Jul 2022 #238

This generation of Democrats leaders Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #240

Where's the bill from Congress that he is failing to sign? treestar Jul 2022 #244

He doesn't need a bill 867-5309. Jul 2022 #246

What are his reasons for not doing that? treestar Jul 2022 #257

That's a damn good question 867-5309. Jul 2022 #259

Biden bashing Biden Emile Jul 2022 #255

So how is he not doing that? treestar Jul 2022 #258

When do you think he'll move it up? In his Emile Jul 2022 #260

I agree. End the war NOW, fire Garland, and hire a ecstatic Jul 2022 #247

Careful, this post will get deleted budkin Jul 2022 #262

For all of you who posted that this issue isn't politically important, that it's a low priority... AdamGG Jul 2022 #274

+1000! nt JoeOtterbein Jul 2022 #275

If it was a big issue than Beto O'Rourke would have won the nomination . Also he IS running for JI7 Jul 2022 #277

Who was the last 3 term Congressman to win the Democratic Presidential nomination? AdamGG Jul 2022 #279

+2000 Emile Jul 2022 #278