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12. So you are calculating what you put into SS ONLY from YOUR own

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pov? What about those who don't have enough money to invest and make it grow? Do you object to taxes also? Do you not see the benefits of living in a society where there are no people dying of poverty and starvation, where the most vulnerable are helped by the rest of us?

I'm sure we could all do some calculations and figure out that we are paying more into the system than we will get out of it, as far as MONEY goes. And if all people value is money and they don't see the consequences to a society that does not do anything for the Common Good, where each individual only looks out for themselves, and how that will affect THEM should they get to keep that money, while the most vulnerable members of society, the elderly, children, the disabled, go back to dying as thousands did before there was SS, then all I can say is they don't understand the basic premise of what a civil society is.

You are totally wrong about the popularity of SS btw. Every poll taken shows that SS and Medicare are two of the most programs. The only people who hate SS are the small minority who see every dollar as THEIRS to gamble on Wall Street. And we've all learned now what happens when you let them do that as opposed to the SS program which does exactly what it was intended to do.

If you should ever be unable to contribute to the SS fund, you would still benefit from those of us who are more than willing to contribute to it. Compared to the benefits for society from this program, the numbers of lives saved, I am more than willing to contribute whatever I can afford because I know that what I get back is worth way, way more than whatever profit I might make should I keep that money.

So let me ask you this, what would you substitute SS with, or do you think it's every person for themselves? I'm not getting your objection to a society that works for all of its citizens and is willing to contribute to make sure that no one starves or dies for want of Health Care eg?