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CousinIT

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Fri Jun 18, 2021, 11:53 AM Jun 2021

The Atlantic: A WARNING FROM EUROPE: THE WORST IS YET TO COME [View all]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/poland-polarization/568324/

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Given the right conditions, any society can turn against democracy. Indeed, if history is anything to go by, all societies eventually will.

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The decision to put a conspiracy theory at the heart of government policy was the source of the authoritarian actions that followed.

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Polarization is normal. Skepticism about liberal democracy is normal. And the appeal of authoritarianism is eternal.

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In truth, the argument about who gets to rule is never over, particularly in an era when people have rejected aristocracy, and no longer believe that leadership is inherited at birth or that the ruling class is endorsed by God. Some of us, in Europe and North America, have settled on the idea that various forms of democratic and economic competition are the fairest alternative to inherited or ordained power.

But we should not have been surprised—I should not have been surprised—when the principles of meritocracy and competition were challenged. Democracy and free markets can produce unsatisfying outcomes, after all, especially when badly regulated, or when nobody trusts the regulators, or when people are entering the contest from very different starting points. Sooner or later, the losers of the competition were always going to challenge the value of the competition itself.

More to the point, the principles of competition, even when they encourage talent and create upward mobility, don’t necessarily answer deeper questions about national identity, or satisfy the human desire to belong to a moral community. The authoritarian state, or even the semi-authoritarian state—the one-party state, the illiberal state—offers that promise: that the nation will be ruled by the best people, the deserving people, the members of the party, the believers in the Medium-Size Lie. It may be that democracy has to be bent or business corrupted or court systems wrecked in order to achieve that state. But if you believe that you are one of those deserving people, you will do it. . . .
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Cutting education and keeping people stupid will do it everytime. brush Jun 2021 #1
+1 2naSalit Jun 2021 #5
+2 UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #7
The right started focusing on filling Boards of Education across the country back in the 80s. CrispyQ Jun 2021 #9
And Rove and his ilk are highly educated so what's it's really about... brush Jun 2021 #11
What a (rotten) gem, might have to borrow that appalachiablue Jun 2021 #18
John Birch Society czarjak Jun 2021 #26
Con manipulators use "Elites" not to describe the toxic wealthy. StClone Jun 2021 #19
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2021 #28
+1 ancianita Jun 2021 #32
not to mention the secret of authoritarian power- wrong handed masturbation certainot Jun 2021 #33
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #2
The poison embraces religion as its special tool, along with ShazamIam Jun 2021 #3
It is almost always about power... Caliman73 Jun 2021 #4
Suggest the appeal of, hate-power-authoritarianism, is eternal empedocles Jun 2021 #6
This is why it's so important that Trump and his cultists are prosecuted KentuckyStiffRipple Jun 2021 #8
I've always found it interesting Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #10
It's not really that unusual BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #16
You must've missed out Nasruddin Jun 2021 #20
Yeah, I guess I did BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #21
Well, I did go to Catholic school. Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #22
Sounds like you would prefer no wnylib Jun 2021 #29
I prefer authority Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #34
Isn't that the kind of authority that my post was about? wnylib Jun 2021 #35
Sure, but I was just correcting Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #36
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #12
Shows that anti-intellectualism isn't limited to the right. SouthBayDem Jun 2021 #15
"I love the poorly educated... Harker Jun 2021 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #14
Meritocracy embraced greed, opportunity became privilege, equality became hierarchy. bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #17
Given the right conditions, society will turn against any form of government. Kaleva Jun 2021 #23
Correction:"satisfy the human desire to belong to a community." Add: human tendency to think one is andym Jun 2021 #24
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Initech Jun 2021 #25
+1, People don't understand the US is enthralled in an insurrection against democracy RIGHT NOW! uponit7771 Jun 2021 #30
Could Be colsohlibgal Jun 2021 #27
I think it was Napoleon who said of organized religion maxrandb Jun 2021 #31
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