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Sympthsical

(9,179 posts)
50. You claimed a falsehood, and now you double down and accuse me of being right-wing
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:25 PM
Apr 2021

Allow me to quote exactly you:


"Maddow is going through ***RIGHT NOW*** what black people on DU have stated in the last couple of days; that lethal deadly force is ... NOT ... used against white people even when justified"


Your words.

Here's some stats.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

457 white people killed by police. Are those lives a joke to you? You said, "Lethal deadly force is not used against white people, even when justified."

You have this idea that white people aren't being screwed by police. Even if you don't have that idea, it is real, real easy to interpret that you feel that way based on your language. No one here (I hope) disagrees that black people are being targeted and disproportionately victims of police violence. No one. (I hope).

But you and others keep saying these things, and I keep wondering, is this a reality you just built for yourself based on the dogma you're managing? White people are victimized and abused and killed by the police everyday. The objective statistics bear this out.

The police are a fucking problem for all of us, and black people are the canaries in the societal coal mine.

Instead, we get these stories. That viral a week ago of an armed old white guy getting away. Like that's every encounter with white people ever. Yes, we all get away with it. The extreme anomaly is taken as the common truth because it serves the narrative.

Stop with the fucking Narrative. It's dishonest, it speaks to no one, it makes you feel purposed and righteous, and the fence-sitters see it for the lie it is and shrink away. It's damaging.

You ask me to watch what is put in my head. I don't watch cable news, so I didn't see Maddow - I am responding to what you wrote. I don't think anyone should watch cable news. Seriously. It's garbage. Even if some of it is your candy, candy isn't great for you.

Watch your ideology and your dogma. You have picked a very, very illogical and dumb instance as a hill to die on. Not even Reddit - which is famously liberal and an echo chamber and backed far away from this case - is going along on this one. But suddenly, stab wounds aren't bad, and tasers are suddenly Star Trek phasers that can work magic.

The arguments look stupid on their face.

A black life was saved by a white police officer. That's what the vast majority of people are seeing here.

Your dogma is doing more harm than good. You're alienating allies when you could be gaining them. You're displaying an irrational desire for outrage where none is required. And then people will ask, "What are you about exactly? Except that white people suck?"

And then, you've lost.

I'm white. Gay, but white. So, I try as hard as I can to find black justice, to support BLM because it's important and not just a conversation, but a conversation long overdue.

But once you fall into the dogma pit, and it's all anti-cops, anti-white, you've lost. And not just on principle, but because demographics are rapidly overtaking it all.
The racism in the police has always been there. panader0 Apr 2021 #1
America's first police forces were created to hunt down escaped slaves. Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #2
Snopes misanthrope Apr 2021 #31
It is the root reason for their existence! CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #28
Fuck republicans I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2021 #3
People who are cheering for the guy who killed the girl with a knife piss me off and Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #4
Peyton Ham. 16. . . . Journeyman Apr 2021 #8
More info bdamomma Apr 2021 #10
Calling the cops doesn't mean anything. Calista241 Apr 2021 #14
Lawrence O'Donnell bdamomma Apr 2021 #19
We have confirmation on who called the police? greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #22
Yea, why don't they fire warning shots anymore? And he could have easily shot Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #26
Warning shots? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #40
Yes, like Jackie Chan. I was thinking, not as if she's a professional assassin well-trained in betsuni Apr 2021 #27
Cheering? kcr Apr 2021 #36
Cheering? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #41
Wasn't justified lethal force used to shoot a white protestor on January 6th? Pachamama Apr 2021 #5
1. the capital terrorist weren't "protesting" 2. you're making my point for me by posting ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #9
One white protestor in a mob of 5,000+ meadowlander Apr 2021 #11
A fair number of armed black groups have protested in the last 6 months. Calista241 Apr 2021 #15
"armed black groups" have protested in last 6 months, and none were shot ?!? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #17
The armed black groups weren't protesting with BLM protestors on purpose IINM uponit7771 Apr 2021 #18
Their comment on January 6th: meadowlander Apr 2021 #21
you're not following the narrative here Skittles Apr 2021 #33
How many of them forcibly invaded a government building Bettie Apr 2021 #54
I don't believe race becomes an issue for the January 6th insurrection FakeNoose Apr 2021 #16
One would have to be a fucking idiot to be part of that racist lynch mob on Jan 6. backscatter712 Apr 2021 #20
I knew a white guy torius Apr 2021 #29
You'd be surprised at the rates I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2021 #30
It's just horrible torius Apr 2021 #32
Mental Health Professionals bdamomma Apr 2021 #39
Yes. There was that poor woman with dementia recently in the news kcr Apr 2021 #37
Excellent program malaise Apr 2021 #6
Excellent program malaise Apr 2021 #7
Been going on for decades...What is new HipChick Apr 2021 #12
Technological developments malaise Apr 2021 #13
Not exactly news to anyone paying any kind of attention at all. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #23
Certain lives haven't mattered here for a long time, sadly. . .sometimes if ever. AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #24
Rachel did good. triron Apr 2021 #25
Why do you post such a monstrous untruth? Sympthsical Apr 2021 #34
Why bring MAGA Media tripe here like you don't understand the word "disproportionate" and its uponit7771 Apr 2021 #35
You claimed a falsehood, and now you double down and accuse me of being right-wing Sympthsical Apr 2021 #50
You used a lot of letters to admit you ignored the word "Maddow" in my op title like the ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #51
You cannot admit you're wrong Sympthsical Apr 2021 #52
This is false relative to the segment of that night, if you don't know what the segment was uponit7771 Apr 2021 #53
"A couple of people on the internet think I'm right," isn't an argument Sympthsical Apr 2021 #55
Rachel Maddow video: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #38
If black people are saying lethal force is not used against white people even when justified... TCJ70 Apr 2021 #42
No one but MAGA Media is proffering this asinine assed strawman. The issue is disproportionality uponit7771 Apr 2021 #43
Your OP doesn't say anything about proportionality... TCJ70 Apr 2021 #44
No one has to, that's been part of the argument forever. Do you really think people marched in ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #45
You're deflecting. TCJ70 Apr 2021 #46
You're not paying even half assed attention and your question is shitty on its face uponit7771 Apr 2021 #47
I'm just trying to figure out if you actually believe what you wrote: TCJ70 Apr 2021 #48
In the context of Maddow's segment of course I do, if you extract that statement away from her segme uponit7771 Apr 2021 #49
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