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In reply to the discussion: Maddow is going through ***RIGHT NOW*** what black people on DU have stated ... [View all]Sympthsical
(9,179 posts)50. You claimed a falsehood, and now you double down and accuse me of being right-wing
Allow me to quote exactly you:
"Maddow is going through ***RIGHT NOW*** what black people on DU have stated in the last couple of days; that lethal deadly force is ... NOT ... used against white people even when justified"
Your words.
Here's some stats.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
457 white people killed by police. Are those lives a joke to you? You said, "Lethal deadly force is not used against white people, even when justified."
You have this idea that white people aren't being screwed by police. Even if you don't have that idea, it is real, real easy to interpret that you feel that way based on your language. No one here (I hope) disagrees that black people are being targeted and disproportionately victims of police violence. No one. (I hope).
But you and others keep saying these things, and I keep wondering, is this a reality you just built for yourself based on the dogma you're managing? White people are victimized and abused and killed by the police everyday. The objective statistics bear this out.
The police are a fucking problem for all of us, and black people are the canaries in the societal coal mine.
Instead, we get these stories. That viral a week ago of an armed old white guy getting away. Like that's every encounter with white people ever. Yes, we all get away with it. The extreme anomaly is taken as the common truth because it serves the narrative.
Stop with the fucking Narrative. It's dishonest, it speaks to no one, it makes you feel purposed and righteous, and the fence-sitters see it for the lie it is and shrink away. It's damaging.
You ask me to watch what is put in my head. I don't watch cable news, so I didn't see Maddow - I am responding to what you wrote. I don't think anyone should watch cable news. Seriously. It's garbage. Even if some of it is your candy, candy isn't great for you.
Watch your ideology and your dogma. You have picked a very, very illogical and dumb instance as a hill to die on. Not even Reddit - which is famously liberal and an echo chamber and backed far away from this case - is going along on this one. But suddenly, stab wounds aren't bad, and tasers are suddenly Star Trek phasers that can work magic.
The arguments look stupid on their face.
A black life was saved by a white police officer. That's what the vast majority of people are seeing here.
Your dogma is doing more harm than good. You're alienating allies when you could be gaining them. You're displaying an irrational desire for outrage where none is required. And then people will ask, "What are you about exactly? Except that white people suck?"
And then, you've lost.
I'm white. Gay, but white. So, I try as hard as I can to find black justice, to support BLM because it's important and not just a conversation, but a conversation long overdue.
But once you fall into the dogma pit, and it's all anti-cops, anti-white, you've lost. And not just on principle, but because demographics are rapidly overtaking it all.
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Maddow is going through ***RIGHT NOW*** what black people on DU have stated ... [View all]
uponit7771
Apr 2021
OP
People who are cheering for the guy who killed the girl with a knife piss me off and
Maraya1969
Apr 2021
#4
Yea, why don't they fire warning shots anymore? And he could have easily shot
Maraya1969
Apr 2021
#26
Yes, like Jackie Chan. I was thinking, not as if she's a professional assassin well-trained in
betsuni
Apr 2021
#27
1. the capital terrorist weren't "protesting" 2. you're making my point for me by posting ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#9
"armed black groups" have protested in last 6 months, and none were shot ?!?
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2021
#17
The armed black groups weren't protesting with BLM protestors on purpose IINM
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#18
One would have to be a fucking idiot to be part of that racist lynch mob on Jan 6.
backscatter712
Apr 2021
#20
Certain lives haven't mattered here for a long time, sadly. . .sometimes if ever.
AZLD4Candidate
Apr 2021
#24
Why bring MAGA Media tripe here like you don't understand the word "disproportionate" and its
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#35
You claimed a falsehood, and now you double down and accuse me of being right-wing
Sympthsical
Apr 2021
#50
You used a lot of letters to admit you ignored the word "Maddow" in my op title like the ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#51
This is false relative to the segment of that night, if you don't know what the segment was
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#53
If black people are saying lethal force is not used against white people even when justified...
TCJ70
Apr 2021
#42
No one but MAGA Media is proffering this asinine assed strawman. The issue is disproportionality
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#43
No one has to, that's been part of the argument forever. Do you really think people marched in ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#45
You're not paying even half assed attention and your question is shitty on its face
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#47