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In reply to the discussion: Ron Paul's Strange Bedfellows - "What is it with progressive mancrushes on right-wing Republicans?" [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)7. Falguni Sheth's take down of Pollit
Pollitts Perplexity about Pundits on Ron Paul
http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/pollitts-perplexity-about-pundits-on-ron-paul/
She also gives her hell for mischaracterizing Greenwald's position in the first paragraph but, as Greenwald said himself, "But addressing Pollitts distortion is the least important and interesting point in Professor Sheths essay, which I really encourage everyone to read."
http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/pollitts-perplexity-about-pundits-on-ron-paul/
But HERE FOLKS! I am a brown woman (in case my bio didnt clue you into that), and I am downright livid at policies passed during the Obama administration (which a number of folks will attest that I anticipated before the 2008 election), which are even worse than expected. I am as livid with progressives who affect a casual? studied? indifference to the Administrations repeated support for warrantless wiretapping (remember Obamas vote during the 2008 election season when he took a break in campaigning to return to Washington to vote for the renewal of FISA; for his support of the Justice Departments withholding of evidence (and even habeas corpus) from detainees on grounds of national security; his commitment to indefinite detention (NDAA was not the first time its arisen. We saw his support in the gesture to move Gitmo detainees to a federal prison in Illinoiswith only a casual suggestion that they might receive civilian trialsonly to watch it die quickly under even modest resistance. Guantanamo is still open with detainees languishing); the expansion of troops into Afghanistan in the first part of his term; the unceasing drone attacks in Pakistan, etc.
Does that mean that I am a fan of Ron Paul? No. Do I admire the fact that hes articulating an anti-war platform? Yes, but very cautiously and very sadly, given his other questionable positions. As Corey Robin points out, folks who are anti-war have only Paul to look to. And in part, we have only Paul to look to, because of white leftish women like Katha Pollitt, who says,
I, too, would love to see the end of the war on drugs and our other wars. I, too, am shocked by the curtailment of civil liberties in pursuit of the war on terror, most recently the provision in the NDAA permitting the indefinite detention, without charge, of US citizens suspected of involvement in terrorism. But these are a handful of cherries on a blighted tree.
Really? Half a million Iraqi civilians dead? Dozens of Pakistani children dead because of drones (or more. We are not allowed to know)? The reproductive systems of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women decimated by decades of US-led chemical warfare ? The curtailment of civil liberties of legal residents (and not merely citizens) in the US? The indefinite detention of tens of thousands of migrants, documented or otherwise? Those migrants include Latinos, South Asians, Arabs, Middle Easterners, Muslims from other parts of the worlddetained not just for migrating without papers, but for merely being suspected of terrorism and held without charges, without lawyers, without family knowing, without judicial reviewwithout a way out. These are what an anti-war position would resist. Seriously? Pollitt believes these are cherries on a blighted tree?
Apparently the last time Pollitt checked, women were half the population in the United States. Last time I checked, women were half the population in the parts of the world that the US is decimating. Im going out on a limb, but Im guessing that they care about their reproductive systems being trashed. They probably also care about their children dying. Im wondering what Pollitt thinks about the ripping apart of migrant parents from their childrenby deporting at least 46,000 of them under the Obama Administration? My understanding is that these children all had parents. And apparently those parents cared about them.
Does that mean that I am a fan of Ron Paul? No. Do I admire the fact that hes articulating an anti-war platform? Yes, but very cautiously and very sadly, given his other questionable positions. As Corey Robin points out, folks who are anti-war have only Paul to look to. And in part, we have only Paul to look to, because of white leftish women like Katha Pollitt, who says,
I, too, would love to see the end of the war on drugs and our other wars. I, too, am shocked by the curtailment of civil liberties in pursuit of the war on terror, most recently the provision in the NDAA permitting the indefinite detention, without charge, of US citizens suspected of involvement in terrorism. But these are a handful of cherries on a blighted tree.
Really? Half a million Iraqi civilians dead? Dozens of Pakistani children dead because of drones (or more. We are not allowed to know)? The reproductive systems of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women decimated by decades of US-led chemical warfare ? The curtailment of civil liberties of legal residents (and not merely citizens) in the US? The indefinite detention of tens of thousands of migrants, documented or otherwise? Those migrants include Latinos, South Asians, Arabs, Middle Easterners, Muslims from other parts of the worlddetained not just for migrating without papers, but for merely being suspected of terrorism and held without charges, without lawyers, without family knowing, without judicial reviewwithout a way out. These are what an anti-war position would resist. Seriously? Pollitt believes these are cherries on a blighted tree?
Apparently the last time Pollitt checked, women were half the population in the United States. Last time I checked, women were half the population in the parts of the world that the US is decimating. Im going out on a limb, but Im guessing that they care about their reproductive systems being trashed. They probably also care about their children dying. Im wondering what Pollitt thinks about the ripping apart of migrant parents from their childrenby deporting at least 46,000 of them under the Obama Administration? My understanding is that these children all had parents. And apparently those parents cared about them.
She also gives her hell for mischaracterizing Greenwald's position in the first paragraph but, as Greenwald said himself, "But addressing Pollitts distortion is the least important and interesting point in Professor Sheths essay, which I really encourage everyone to read."
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G_j
Jan 2012
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They say that he is very smart. Will he figure this out in time? Do we even matter to him?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
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Correction: A candidate only a straight, wealthy, white Klansman could love. nt
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Jan 2012
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