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lildreamer316

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59. Oh, I'm not saying

Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:32 AM

Jan 2012

that encouraging such behavior isn't part of what the male strippers do. But it's a paradox for them..it's part of the job, but it's a serious problem for them in the end. It's, ironically, part of the mostly-unspoken double standard that implies that men don't ever mind being grabbed, groped, and the like.

Strangely (to some) I feel exactly the same way you do. I don't want my head grabbed and forced into his crotch; I don't enjoy getting on my knees and putting in a dollar with my teeth, etc. I find it embarrassing and crass. I don't want to treat the man in that way..it feels cheap. Just as I would not want the same done to me.He is not a side of beef. I may see him as a sexual entity, but as something to fuel my fantasies only. I greatly respect the effort and time they spend on their bodies to get them in shape, and the effort and time they spend on their stage shows.

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Is stripping also violence? [View all] Charlemagne Jan 2012 OP

No NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #1

Is posing for the SI swimsuit issue violence? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #2

Stripping can be extremely violent Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #3

Only if one has issues. Burgman Jan 2012 #4

I never expected so many people wouldn't grasp the concept of metaphors. redqueen Jan 2012 #5

Umm.... zappaman Jan 2012 #7

Not all strip clubs are in bad neighborhoods. (nt) redqueen Jan 2012 #11

not all strip clubs have to have bouncers accompany women to their car n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #14

I think you might have hit on a even larger issue here.... Why aren't women safe to walk to their midnight Jan 2012 #27

If thats the case Drale Jan 2012 #8

so going to college and working at charities promotes violence. zappaman Jan 2012 #10

I'm glad we're at least addressing rape culture in general... redqueen Jan 2012 #13

stripers face more danger than other women? zappaman Jan 2012 #15

Do you do any research or reading yourself? redqueen Jan 2012 #18

but this is the point. call it what it is instead of making it pretty so there is no thought seabeyond Jan 2012 #28

It was empowering to me. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #36

If anyone tried this shit in the club I go to they'd need an ambulance. cliffordu Jan 2012 #40

I have't been to a strip club in many years RZM Jan 2012 #50

YEP - Mine is a craptastic little neighborhood bar that cliffordu Jan 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu Jan 2012 #45

Comparing consensual stripping to rape cheapens the severity of that crime. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #6

The OP didn't compare stripping to rape, he/she said, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #25

Any association of consensual exotic dancing to rape is insulting. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #42

And what is unfortunate lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #41

It is often a financial necessity for women obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #9

The answer is our society sucks as a whole Major Nikon Jan 2012 #12

a woman stands there naked, a man clothed. man holds dollar for entertainment for her to eat. seabeyond Jan 2012 #16

Do you have access to JSTOR Charlemagne Jan 2012 #17

am i yelling? really? the man is not vulnerable. the woman is. the man taunts with a dollar seabeyond Jan 2012 #19

I didnt mean "yell" Charlemagne Jan 2012 #20

thank you. i appreciate that. i get it a lot. mad, yell, hysterical. lol. a trend. seabeyond Jan 2012 #21

They need her? redqueen Jan 2012 #22

Ill try and fish it up Charlemagne Jan 2012 #23

I will at some point. redqueen Jan 2012 #24

He's there for entertainment; she's there to make a living. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #26

if she's an adult who is not trafficked or pimped out tnvoter Jan 2012 #29

Just because you have a choice, doesn't mean you're empowered. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #30

The motivation behind MY decision to do exotic dance lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #31

I find it interesting that the DU women who are most outspoken against stripping NeedleCast Jan 2012 #67

Good point. HappyMe Jan 2012 #68

I've also noticed that you're not getting replies MineralMan Jan 2012 #69

There could be some imbalance though treestar Jan 2012 #33

Same thing could be said for any non-union construction job Taverner Jan 2012 #54

By that logic Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #64

If you can't see the difference between CrispyQ Jan 2012 #65

You said "He's there for entertainment; she's there to make a living." Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #66

She doesn't have to strip. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #43

No and we have male ones treestar Jan 2012 #32

Oh, and you know what's crazy? lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #35

And not only that, they have to keep these insane diets Taverner Jan 2012 #39

hmm, the 3 or so times i saw male strippers, we weren't allowed to touch them... Scout Jan 2012 #56

Oh, I'm not saying lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #59

If you have not been in the industry you can't really judge it. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #34

thanks for your two posts. seabeyond Jan 2012 #37

Oh goodness. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #46

i think i have heard a lot of this before. i dont know if it is reading seabeyond Jan 2012 #47

Yes, you've hit on it exactly. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #58

ya. seabeyond Jan 2012 #61

Aw Jeez...not this shit again... Taverner Jan 2012 #38

Absolutely! evilkumquat Jan 2012 #44

Agreed. Women should be able to make money any way they want. Taverner Jan 2012 #52

geez tav, it gets old you making up your own argument and then yelling it out. seabeyond Jan 2012 #53

Just sick of the puritanism - And that is what they are saying, between the lines Taverner Jan 2012 #57

no tav, that is not what they are saying. again, you are making up your argument seabeyond Jan 2012 #60

ah, "sex-negative" ... DU's favorite, false accusation.... Scout Jan 2012 #48

If you have a problem with sex, you have a problem with yourself Taverner Jan 2012 #51

here you are again, making up shit about someone you dont know then lecturing what she needs to do seabeyond Jan 2012 #55

*I* don't have a problem with sex... Scout Jan 2012 #63

Yeah, pretty much everything is violence, tabasco Jan 2012 #49