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tableturner

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Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:31 PM Nov 2020

We GAVE them two issues: the economy and socialism! Why? [View all]

Re: the economy.....for almost his entire term we let Trump repeatedly say with almost no refutation that he "built this strong economy". We also let him say it during the campaign with a bit more refutation, but our counter argument was still relatively weak compared to how we COULD have aggressively destroyed this false claim. We should have very aggressively and repeatedly said from the beginning of his term, and continuing through the campaign even MORE aggressively, that he was riding the Obama/Biden recovery coattails, as shown by the fact that the GDP growth during the last three years of the Obama/Biden administration was stronger than during the first three years of the Trump administration. It was SO clear cut, and it would have been EASY. But....we didn't.

Re: socialism.....how did we let a puppet of Putin, who has been a communist for his entire adult life, and who has been a strong supporter of the Castro regime his entire time in office, label the Democrats as the party of socialism, thereby losing many Cuban American votes, and others, too? We could have very easily and irretrievably tied Trump to Putin generally, and specifically to Putin's support of the Castro regime. It would have been so easy to do.....imagine the TV ads pointing out Trump's sycophancy to Putin, along with Putin's ongoing support of the Castro regime, thereby tying Trump to the socialist/Communist Cuban regime. But....we didn't.

In both cases....the economy and socialism.....why didn't we fight those falsehoods tooth and nail, instead of fighting them so ineffectually like we did? Why? I have to admit that this haunts me this morning! We GAVE Trump those issues.

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The republicon excuse, was the virus stopped trump's strong economy. empedocles Nov 2020 #1
Factored in by comparing the last 3 years of Obama/Biden to the first 3 of Trump! tableturner Nov 2020 #2
All people heard was socialism - we didn't push fascism. Next election - go low! 42bambi Nov 2020 #5
No, Trump took these issues Big Blue Marble Nov 2020 #3
Touchdown LostinRed Nov 2020 #4
Been saying it for years. Can't improve our advocacy without admitting the truth! tableturner Nov 2020 #6
Great spin, no depth. ret5hd Nov 2020 #7
trump convinced many Florida voters that all Democrats are socialists Gothmog Nov 2020 #8
I may get some shit for this but I really think it's time for the Democrats to abandon socialism. Initech Nov 2020 #11
I agree Gothmog Nov 2020 #13
But even Sanders wasn't really a socialist. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #12
trump was able to use sanders' positions to hurt Joe Gothmog Nov 2020 #14
People vote with their damn wallets every damn time. Initech Nov 2020 #9
Even when that vote will actually hurt their own wallets. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #17
Yup. I know people who hate socialism. Initech Nov 2020 #18
Stop treestar Nov 2020 #10
I agree JonLP24 Nov 2020 #15
There's only one issue and it's an ugly one BlueNProud Nov 2020 #16
I tried but no one paid attention. I tried to get the Dems to focus on two main things Boogiemack Nov 2020 #19
The socialism attack cost Joe Florida and Latino votes in Texas Gothmog Nov 2020 #20
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